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selfonlypath
France
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 Posted - Feb 11 2010 : 11:14:38 PM
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Hey,
I've decided to start a thread on this form of tantra which seems not too much documented by tantrik-shaman gurus.
One way to discuss this topic consists of extracting some key info from this thread http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....OPIC_ID=1979
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It's interesting that traditional spiritual writings describe the Kundalini as coiled three and a half times at the base of the spine and that the anal sphincter is made up of three loops and connects to the coccyx (the seat of Kundalini Energy).
Also, some people think that anal sex, as long as it is with the intention to awaken spiritually, is a more direct way of awakening Kundalini and some forms of Tantra and Kundalini Yoga support this.
Anal intercourse is a specific Kundalini arousal method.
My guru taught me that anal tantra is direct door to open sushumna hence much more dangerous practice & explaining why not much publicly available
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I have heard that the final stage of the awakening of the kundalini is the complete merging of the feminine and masculine aspects of the human being within one body. And beyond that, further processes start which involve the merging of other aspects of our being on an individual and a cosmic level. I also experience that a sense of surrender is very important in the spiritual path.
Indeed, the erogenous gate of anal anatomy are non-dual without any polarity because found in a woman & in man. It is kind of universal explaining why it is much more direct door to sushumna as opposed to via a polarized gate (i.e. vagina, clitoris, penis).
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Anyways, a little off-topic... the activation of muladhara... I personally don't experience any activation of muladhara, as it could be called such, during or after anal sex.
I think so too.
The very specific dangers of high kundalini release seems to be master more safely via shamanic rituals. This is because anal archetype has to do with going to lower worlds, remain ultra-grounded & ultra-rooted in order to experience rigpa or non-dual awareness.
Whatever is blocked in lower triangle chakras will go down esoterically as it is already biological programmed. Authentic shamans know how to manage dark rigpa or dark light when travelling down so anal tantra becomes a psychic extreme energy pump.
Nevertheless, most yogic practioner are rather confortable going up to upper worlds in order to experience rigpa which explains why anal tantra is taboo or brings lots of unresolved stuff down there (psychi constipation).
I've used partial anal tantra rituals & can testify it is very powerful healing tool compared to other methods I know of but best know what you're doing to not create more karma than you're trying to dissolve.
Albert
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emc
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Posted - Feb 12 2010 : 01:47:43 AM
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Thank you, Albert.
I especially like the equality part in this. Men are in general not exploring their own anal possibilities to the same degree as women are.
And I also like your last part of not creating more karma than trying to dissolve... The latest big sex survey in Sweden (1996) showed that almost 50% of women had tried anal sex sometime - only a fraction enjoyed it and were willing to try again... and only 1-3% of the population engages in anal sex of any type regularly. It takes some knowledge to know what you are doing, both technically/physically and (if you are tantric) definitely spiritually!!!
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inuic
USA
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Posted - May 25 2010 : 9:00:44 PM
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My Guru Taught me that all forms of Tantra have their place. Be it White, Black or Red.
Anal Intercourse or in Sanskrit ADHORATA is an ancient Kundalini Arousal Method for Direct Access to the Sushumna. Like a direct short to connect Shakti with Shiva by direct dilation of the anal sphincters. Mulabandha and TADA and Asvani Mudras also simulate this effect. By control of the anal sphincters of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system the flows of ida and Pingala can be modulated. So the flow rate can be adjusted via your ability to expand or contract. The sphincters wrap about 3 time like the Kundalini in bands that control the flow rate of Prana into the Sushumna. To the degree you relax and to the degree you contract you can impact the flow rates of ida and pingal and the experience of bliss,in effect you can directly infuse the sushumna and push Shakti directly to Shiva. The risk is spiritual inflexibility or lack of experience. If you are not advanced enough on your path you can get stuck in the Chakras at places where you still need work. Hence without proper balance you can become lopsided. For instance with ADHORATA and the ecstatic feelings of pleasure and bliss it can bring can make you feel that the source of pleasure is in fact your anus and you can divorce this experience from the ultimate source and miss the point and become hedonistic and seek only pleasure without regard to its ultimate source, and you can equate the smaller to the whole. The point is not not forsake the ultimate source, if you do you have missed the point and risk hedonism in its purest form. But just because you perform ADHORATA and Black Tantra does not mean its evil or has not place, you just must be adept enough to not get pulled away from the divine. Its a slippery slope, but it can be managed to be sure, especially if your practiced in the spiritual arts... |
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ADHORATA
USA
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Posted - May 27 2010 : 10:53:24 AM
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The secret tradition of magical Tantra teaches that the anus is
an ultrasensitive erogenic and psychic zone directly linked to
the Muladhara, the basal Chakra. Hidden within Muladhara,
Coiled and compressed like a spring, lies the primal power of
the nervous system manifest as the Snake Goddess, Kundalini.
Stimulation of the Kunda Gland or Kundalini Gland activates the
flow of Prana up the Sushumna. Yoga has devised a wide variety
of techniques to irritate and awaken this gland into activity, including
Mula Bandha, Asvini Mudra, Tada Mudra (knocking the buttocks
upon the ground, sending rhythmic shock waves rippling up the
spine. Tada Mudra is also very similar to the Tantric effects of
Adhorata), and rolling on a cotton ball placed under the tip of the
tailbone. Tantric activation of the gland is direct and swift through the
dilation of the anal sphincters, with a consequent reflex effect upon the
two branches of the autonomic nervous system. These two branches,
terminating in the anus and rectum, are the parasympathetic (Ida, or
braking influence) and the sympathetic (Pingala, or accelerating influence).
As well as altering the state of the involuntary nervous system |
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ADHORATA
USA
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Posted - May 27 2010 : 4:16:53 PM
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If you have been on the path long enough and are not steeped in hedonism and have opened your Chakras and maintain balance you can use methods within Tantra to directly access the Sushumna.
Cautions are for those not yet ready and or have Karmic issues to be resolved.
Mulabanda, Asvani and Tada Mudra are means to open and close the valve gates of ida and pingala. These and various other actions cause the anal sphincter bands that are wrapped 3 times approximately to form the inner anal sphincter bands of the 1st and 2nd internal sphincters. [Kundalini is said to wrap 3.something times in a coil, which is an analog to the 3 bands of the sphincters] Just as ida and pingala correspond to parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous sytems, so do they correspond to the 1st and 2nd anal sphincters. Note the 1st anal sphincter is under the conscious control of any human being, its the 2nd anal sphincter that is under unconscious control[of the 1st and 2nd Chakras].
The flow of Prana, Chi or Kundalini is fully interdependent upon the muscle tonality of the 1st and 2nd anal sphincters. If you are uptight and hold stress in your anus you will squeeze your anus super tight and hold it that way throughout your day and life. This is representative of a CHAKRA Blockages in the lower Chakras. You may have issues and need to work through them to relax the valve gates and allow your Chi\prana\kundalini\holy spirit to flow.
Mulabanda, Asvani and Tada Mudras are all means to impact the tonality and the overall ability to willfully expand or contract your anal sphincter muscles among other muscles of the pelvic floor including the perineum.
The relaxation of the 1st and 2nd anal sphincter is akin to your ability to open and close the flow of ida and pingala at will and when you can do so in the correct proportions you can infuse the Sushumna and allow Shakti to flow upward to Shiva and Shiva to flow back again to Shakti in a complete CIRCUIT.
If you have actually taken the time to complete the Circiut you are likely to spiritually adept enough to directly access the Sushumna, lest you risk getting stuck or lopsided in your Chakras our pull negative Karma you way.
The Degree of Relaxation of the Anal Sphincter Muscles directly impacts the flow rate of the Nervous system Circuits, in effect increasing the flow rate is analogous to greater conductivity, with the goal of superconductivity. The less resistance in the nervous system the more electricity can flow via the nerves.
The more of an open Channel you are and if you have sufficiently removed Chakra Blockages the more prana will flow up the Sushumna, which will be proportionate to the intensity of the feelings you experience. Be these mystical, sexual, mental or spiritual, or some combo depending on your path.
So the question becomes how uptight are you how much stress to you store in your sphincters, as this will relate to the quality and duration of your experience that are dependent on Chi flow. Such as mystical, sexual, or mental\spiritual experiences and their respective intensities.
The degree of relaxation and dilation of the anal sphincters is directly related to the flow of prana up the Sushumna. If your anus is to tight your not relaxed and have a Chakra blockage and need to work though it.
Mulabanda, asvani and tada mudras [akin to western Kegal exercises], give fine motor control over the 1st and 2nd anal sphincters. Which also stimulate the Kunda (kundalini gland) into contractions, which push spinal fluid orgasmically up the spine into the back of the skull resluting in a gush or flood of biochemicals in correspondence to the rise of Kundalini and peak experiences such as Samadhi.
Samadhi by degree related to how open the flow rate of ida and pingala is into the sushumna. Bliss and pleasure are also directly related to this.
Here in lies a danger, because if you 're not spiritually adept and experience profound orgasm via the practice of Adhorata a specif anal kundalini arousal method, you can forget the ULTIMATE Sources of all pleasure and bliss and mistake your sexual organs as the ultimate source, in effect taking the smaller to be equated to the whole, which can lopsided you and make you seek sexual pleasure over the pursuit of ultimate truth and the ultimate spiritual reality of love, which is a primary goal of Tantra itself.
Direct access to the Sushumna can be achieved via ADHORATA to a much greater extent then Mulabanda or asvani or tada mudras. This is because ADHORATA directly dialates the anal sphincters and can cause PROFOUND relaxation and pleasure by direct access to the sushumna and directly pushing Shakti to Shiva, a spinal orgasm of Directly upward flow of Prana, Chi or Kundalini.
If one is already enlightened this is still JUST BLISS and when its in its proper context is still as SACRED as any other form of Samadhi or blissfull states of experience resulting in the rise of Kundalini.
All form of orgasm are derivations of this process and are by degree the same flow, but it can become more profound via all sorts of practices. ADHORATA is just the most direct access and can be a profoundly pleasurable orgasmic experience that can be unmatched, especially when yoni stimulation is occurring at the same time. If you keep this in its proper context the experience is SACRED and PROFOUND. There is not a more direct root to flow blown bliss, one just be careful not to get trapped by the physical pleasure alone that results from the profound opening of the nadis...
If you perform the SACRED act of ADHORATA and climax, and then instantly experience contractions and discomfort you are likely holding way way to much stress in your anal sphincters and are probably uptight at some level and have 1st and 2nd Chakra blockages of some kind.
It takes time to learn to relax the internal 2nd anal sphincter, this is the hard part to learn to control this at will, mulabanda, asvani nd tada mudra can help you with this, mostly asvani mudra. All pleasure is dependent on this 2nd internal anal sphincter, you will never derive any pleasure of open the gates to the sushumna until this 2nd sphincter learns to properly let go of tension. A toned sphincter can open and close at will, a blocked one stays puckered up so tight, anything hurts and Hemorrhoids and anal fissure can result from holding to much stress in the 2nd anal sphincter.
The sphincters are the valve gates of ida and pingala and thereby dictate the flow of prana into the sushumna, of which all bliss, orgasm or pleasure of any kind are derived. States of meditation are also related to this level of relaxation although one may be unaware of these connections. All the nerves and the sexual organs or interconnect with those of the anus and rectum, when aroused the anus and sexual organs function as a single unit via the same systems of nerves and contact together rhythmically during orgasm.
ADHORATA can result in states of Samadhi by degee of activation of the Kunda [kundalini] gland. Adhorata directly stimulates this gland physcially to a far greater extend the Mulabanda or asvani mudra ever could. Sacrum pressure can excite the kunda gland as well which is why Tada Mudra can activate this gland as well. ADHORATA achieves the same things as tada Mudra by repeatedly hitting the sacrum and applying external pressure upon the sacrum in addition to direct physical stimulation of the kundalini gland. |
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selfonlypath
France
297 Posts |
Posted - May 30 2010 : 01:03:01 AM
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Anal tantra belongs to red tantra so has no link with black tantra.
Once you know non-ejaculatory macrocosmic orgasm, wether you ejaculate or not ejaculate belongs to red tantra so has again no link with black tantra.
There might be an issue with microcosmic orgasm which is not tantric by nature.
Black tantra is totally different topic.
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Akasha
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 09:06:23 AM
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Hi selfonlypath,
Sorry for my ignorance.
But please could you explain the difference between microcosmic and macrocosmic orgasm?
A few words will do, if that is possible.
Appreciated, in Advance. |
Edited by - Akasha on May 30 2010 09:09:02 AM |
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selfonlypath
France
297 Posts |
Posted - Jun 01 2010 : 12:12:56 AM
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Originally posted by Akasha
But please could you explain the difference between microcosmic and macrocosmic orgasm?
When you circulate energy via microcosmic orbit, it stays through your body whereas if you circulate energy via macrocosmic orbit, you let whatever Universe flow in and out from your body.
With microcosmic orgasm, there is still a notion of ego wanting to only clear internal circuits in your vessel.
With macrocosmic orgasm, you dedicate and offer your vessel as one little element or tiny interface of the global clearing so it becomes egoless because you'll not know what will happen.
If ego is still active while orgasm, then thought-form process & karmic-intent will lead to black tantra hence prevent path of self-realization. |
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ADHORATA
USA
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Posted - Jun 08 2010 : 8:38:34 PM
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Black vs Red Tantra...
There is disagreement here!
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....OPIC_ID=7865
This is in stark contrast to black tantra, where the sexual energies are allowed to spill through into orgasm. 'Rati Rahasyam' states that tantra awakens consciousness to the absence of our desires, while black tantra awakens consciousness to our inner-most desires. In other words, this path can put one on a slippery slope towards ignorance, as it concludes with orgasm/ejaculation in order to awaken consciousness. However, it must not be seen as an aberrant offshoot of the original discipline. Rather, it worthwhile viewing it as a means to engage in profound love-making rites with deities via meditation. After years of such advanced practice, we begin to experience siddhis or supernatural powers that can help us on our journey to samadhi - or spiritual realization.
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....OPIC_ID=7263
My Guru Taught me that all forms of Tantra have their place. Be it White, Black or Red.
Anal Intercourse or in Sanskrit ADHORATA is an ancient Kundalini Arousal Method for Direct Access to the Sushumna. Like a direct short to connect Shakti with Shiva by direct dilation of the anal sphincters. Mulabandha and TADA and Asvani Mudras also simulate this effect. By control of the anal sphincters of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system the flows of ida and Pingala can be modulated. So the flow rate can be adjusted via your ability to expand or contract. The sphincters wrap about 3 time like the Kundalini in bands that control the flow rate of Prana into the Sushumna. To the degree you relax and to the degree you contract you can impact the flow rates of ida and pingal and the experience of bliss,in effect you can directly infuse the sushumna and push Shakti directly to Shiva. The risk is spiritual inflexibility or lack of experience. If you are not advanced enough on your path you can get stuck in the Chakras at places where you still need work. Hence without proper balance you can become lopsided. For instance with ADHORATA and the ecstatic feelings of pleasure and bliss it can bring can make you feel that the source of pleasure is in fact your anus and you can divorce this experience from the ultimate source and miss the point and become hedonistic and seek only pleasure without regard to its ultimate source, and you can equate the smaller to the whole. The point is not not forsake the ultimate source, if you do you have missed the point and risk hedonism in its purest form. But just because you perform ADHORATA and Black Tantra does not mean its evil or has not place, you just must be adept enough to not get pulled away from the divine. Its a slippery slope, but it can be managed to be sure, especially if your practiced in the spiritual arts...
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Tantrica
Argentina
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Posted - Sep 29 2011 : 7:38:53 PM
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Dear people:
I would like to post here a question about our practices with a very effective technique for kundalini activation that is closely linked to adhorata. I would need asessment about the technique itself and where we ended.
Thank you in advance.
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....D=7865#89083
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Radharani
USA
843 Posts |
Posted - Oct 03 2011 : 7:13:34 PM
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| I was pleasantly surprised to discover this (anal stimulation/kundalini) inadvertently while doing the Gerson detox protocol which involves coffee enemas. I began to feel kundalini rising very powerfully and said to myself, "Hmmm, that's odd - might as well go with it!" since after all, everything - everything! - is an opportunity for yoga. I began to do spinal breathing with some difficulty and experienced serious mind-blowing ecstasy. Later that evening I did also experience some grouchiness/bitchiness as a result of lots of "stuff" being released. As an experienced tantrika I found this to be a powerful practice and would advise caution and self-pacing. Wonderful subtle and physical housecleaning all at once! |
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Tantrica
Argentina
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Posted - Oct 04 2011 : 11:46:56 AM
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Amazing descovery Jamie! 
When we experimented with this technique I did not reach the mind-blowing kundalini ecstasy, although I felt it rising, altogether with lots of mixed sensations/emotions. I still question wether it was some blocking in one of my chakras (which one?) or more time was needed.
Best wishes! |
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Radharani
USA
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Posted - Oct 05 2011 : 12:40:57 AM
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| Tantrica, I was going to comment on your other post (asking the question about whether or not maybe something was blocked in a chakra) but I don't have enough experience with this particular approach to be able to say for sure. However, in GENERAL when addressing kundalini flow and techniques: I assume your anal experiment was in the context of an established daily yoga practice - right? Because if not, I really would not expect success, or even if it was successful at that moment, I would not expect long-term benefits. Clearly "something" happened as you felt it rising along with sensations/emotions. If I were you I would focus on my daily practice with spinal breathing, mulabandha and maybe some bhastrika, and deep meditation, to continue removing obstructions in the usual way for a while, and then try the experiment again... actually your description sounded like fun and I was thinking of trying it with my partner, although like most straight guys he does not appreciate his butt being messed with... |
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Tantrica
Argentina
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Posted - Oct 05 2011 : 10:59:59 AM
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Jajaja, yeah, I am straight too  but the sexual-mystical character of the experiment, my girlfriend charm, her description and desire of flagrant kundalini awakening was persuasive enough.
My girfriend is the experienced in tantra, however she awakened kundalini for the first time with this technique when she was a newbie  . |
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selfonlypath
France
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Posted - Oct 05 2011 : 11:23:13 PM
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Hey Tantrica,
I read your other thread but personally feel something wrong when your girl friend kept asking you "She asked one more time: do you feel fear ? No I didn't. Then she stopped: you did not awake kundalini, she told me."
She might be an experienced tantrika but I feel very bad vibe with the way she monitors your progress.
Please remember that fear = karma but yoga or tantra is about burning karma so something does not fit with her approach.
Fear induction has been used by black magick from eons.
For example in vodoo, they bury someone live to kill him then at least minute, they save him... very powerful kundalini awakening method if done only in white path spirit but most vodoo are black path.
P.S. I practice some vodoo rituals, very powerful techniques.
Albert |
Edited by - selfonlypath on Oct 05 2011 11:32:03 PM |
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Radharani
USA
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Posted - Oct 06 2011 : 12:54:28 AM
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| yeah, Albert raises a good point about the whole "fear" approach and I was kind of wondering about that, too. The only "appropriate" fear I can think of in this situation would be the ego's fear of loss of control, when being swept away by divine ecstasy. But I would not expect fear to be a prominent or necessary feature of kundalini awakening. |
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Tantrica
Argentina
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Posted - Oct 06 2011 : 01:24:49 AM
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Thank you Albert for your answer.
Since we did that practice I found almost nothing about it in Tantra forums. Yes, there are many coincidences, you are probably wright. I was trying to send you an email but I can't. Could you please drop me a message so I could tell you more about this story (if not bother you) as it would not be strictly the topic of this forum.
Best. |
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Oct 06 2011 : 01:40:59 AM
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intresting thread....neverthless i am still condionned in that particular topic... i dont feel confortable with anal sex ... too painful ( as a straight woman my mind still believes that sex=vagina only...)it seems also to be a very dangerous and powerful practice to awaken kundalini ....why this fixation about awakening kundalini? take it easy....and watch out
all the best |
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Tantrica
Argentina
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Posted - Oct 06 2011 : 12:11:04 PM
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You made me think...
Our relationship ended, month and a half ago. We never talked again...
Yesterday, during a lingam massage I felt clear and pleasurable waves of kundalini rising from the base of my spine to the base back of my head. I did not feel any of the emotions/sensations I felt before (see the link: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....D=7865#89083 ), nor the tachycardia, nor the tears, nor the resonance, etc. |
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kart12345
United Kingdom
36 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2015 : 07:05:02 AM
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| Hello master, I am not married. I kindly need a small favour and advice from you. I am very interested in rising my kundalini energy. I heard that to raise the kundalini, first we need to (should be able to) open up the tightness in the anus. I am practising seminal retention to open up the channels( heard that kundalini channels opens up if we dont orgasm for quite a long period) and i am de-armouring my anus as well. i can by now easily put something into my anus.. But whenever i am erect i am still tightening the anus.. so how could i relax my anus at that particular time of erection and is there any breathing techniques or exercises to do so? unexpectedly, some times when i just go to sleep i could feel some little buzzing in the prostate(not in the space between rectum and tail bone) and automatically my rectum gets relaxed and im getting erected, my breathing deepens (it happens only just for 2 mins..) it happens on its own....is this some kind of kundalini rising??? ...thank you |
Edited by - kart12345 on May 26 2015 06:49:07 AM |
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BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 05:34:50 AM
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Hi kart12345
The advice is to establish a solid basis in meditation before you undertake any kundalini stimulating practices. When you've developed some inner silence as a result of meditation, it will then safe to slowly build up some energy cultivation practices. All the details are given in the AYP lessons. The recommendation is to start reading them from the beginning: http://www.aypsite.org/10.html |
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bluerock
USA
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Posted - Oct 07 2017 : 12:59:05 PM
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| Thank you Adhorata and selfonlypath for this enlightening post on anal tantra, and the importance of consciousness in the sphincters. It's been very helpful on my own personal journey |
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