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Kirtanman
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 Posted - Dec 02 2009 : 9:07:01 PM
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Ramana Maharshi got a lot of the same types of questions we get here in the forum.
One of them was:
Q. "Swami Vivekananda says that a spiritual guru can transfer spirituality to the disciple."
Ramana comments/answers:
"Is there a substance to be transferred? Transfer means eradication of the sense of being the disciple. The master does it. Not that the man was something at one time and metamorphosed into another."
Q. "Is not grace the gift of God?"
Ramana answers:
"God, grace and guru are all synonymous and also eternal and immanent. Is not the Self already within? Is it for the guru to bestow it by his look? If a guru thinks so, he does not deserve the name."
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"If the individual is sought, he is nowhere to found. Such is the guru. Such is Dakshinamurti. What did he do? He was silent when the disciples appeared before him.
He maintained silence and the doubts of his disciples were dispelled, which means that they lost their individual identities. That is jnana and not all the verbiage usually associated with it.
Silence is the most potent form of work. However vast and emphatic the sastras may be, they fail in their effect. The Guru is quiet and peace prevails in all. His silence is more vast and emphatic than all the sastras put together.
These questions arise, because of the feeling that, having been here so long, heard so much, exerted so hard, one has not gained anything.
The work proceeding within is not apparent.
In fact, the Guru is always within you."
Source:
Be As You Are: The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi by David Godman
Wholeheartedly,
Kirtanman
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