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Suryakant
USA
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 Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 3:35:32 PM
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The present moment has zero duration.
The time of the present moment has zero extension.
The continuum of spacetime of the present moment has zero extension.
The present moment has zero spatial extension. |
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YogaIsLife
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Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 6:21:30 PM
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| hmm...this one really sunk in... |
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Konchok Ösel Dorje
USA
545 Posts |
Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 7:36:23 PM
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Still on the wrong track...
The present moment does not have a zero duration. It depends on what you mean by present moment... If present moment means the one we perceive, then it most definitely might have some duration, however small.
The time of the present moment has zero extension, Doesn't make any sense. Sounds like a restatement of the first.
The continuum of spacetime in the present moment doesn't have a zero extension... The present moment arguably, from the perspective of the body is extended beyond measure in all directions.
The continuum of spacetime of the present moment..., Again a restatement of the second.
The present moment has zero spatial extension, This conclusion is just a restatement of the first three, and is not a deduction.
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Here's how it's done:
The only real existents are directly perceived by the senses.
The present moment is the time someone perceives directly with the senses.
The past is only contacted via memory.
The future is only contacted via imagination.
Therefore, because the past and future are not directly perceived they are non-existent and only the present moment is real.
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Here's better one.
All things exist interdependently. There is no independently existing entity or object.
For example, the present moment depends on a continuum of past moments which preceded it.
The future moments depend on what is happening in this present moment.
The future is directly dependent on the present, and the present directly dependent on the past (and vice versa).
Therefore if the present moment is interdependent upon the past, then there is no such thing as the present moment.
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Or you can go with Einstein,
The present moment is a causal connection between an object and it's past light cone.
Each object has it's own cone.
There is no common present moment.
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Here's a subjective "proof."
The future is imaginary.
If I try to find the present moment as my experience, I notice that there is no identifiable duration where it is not the past.
If I say, "present moment," as soon as I utter it, it is the past. Each moment I identify is already the past.
There is no present moment. |
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Kirtanman
USA
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Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 9:41:28 PM
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"The Tao which can be spoken of is not the Tao."
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Konchok Ösel Dorje
USA
545 Posts |
Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 11:57:25 PM
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| We're not talkn about the Tao |
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chinna
United Kingdom
241 Posts |
Posted - Oct 22 2009 : 6:11:37 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Suryakant
The present moment has zero duration.
The time of the present moment has zero extension.
The continuum of spacetime of the present moment has zero extension.
The present moment has zero spatial extension.
Non-duality excludes nothing.
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