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Originally posted by David_obsidian

Maharishi's guru was an orthodox believer in caste. Maharishi is not a Brahmin -- and in the Shankaracharya's view, he therefore should not be a spiritual teacher, end of story.

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Originally posted by snake

I find the Iam mantra stimulating (almost irritating)in the sense of I feel very awake and also the so called cricket sound of nada gets loud.
In contrast when i try for comparison Shama it is very soothing lulling me to sleep almost.

When I feel stressed I would prefer to use Shama to relax but what do you think I should do in this case
thanks

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Originally posted by yogani

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Originally posted by rabar

I have been concentrating on "pronouncing" (silently) I AM
with the true 'flat' A. When I focus on the actual pronunciation
of the 'A,' the mantra seems to merge with another ongoing sound
that I describe as around the notes 'g' and 'a' three octaves above
middle 'C'. Technically known as 'tinnitus,' this sound increases
for me during meditation. Someone recently mentioned that in his practice it increases during the headstand. I also remember back in 'head stand' days that was true for me as well. But thinking the 'AM' with the correct 'A' - if sounded aloud you have to smile to say it - is quite interesting.

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Hi Rabar:

While all of these experiments sound interesting, I hope you are not doing them during your regular deep meditation sessions. It is so much simpler than that. In fact, the success of the practice depends on maintaining the simplicity of the procedure. Correct practice involves no analysis whatsoever, and no concentration. We are just easily picking up the mantra when we realize we are off with our attention into anything else. Anything else. And the pronunciation is as simple as how they say "I AM" on the English-speaking evening news. Spell it "AYAM" if you like -- this removes the meaning, which is not part of deep meditation. There is wiggle room on pronunciation, as has been discussed in detail in this topic: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....TOPIC_ID=529

It is not necessary to peg the pronunciation or frequency of the sound, or anything like that. It is going to be changing during deep meditation anyway, according to purification going on in the nervous system. We let it change however it will. We just begin, and then follow the procedure for coming back to the mantra at whatever level we find ourselves inside when we realize we are not on it. That is all there is to it ... all the rest we are inclined to put into the process is baggage that will only hamper our natural merging with pure bliss consciousness -- our inner silence.

All the best!

The guru is in you.

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