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brother neil
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 Posted - Aug 13 2009 : 10:00:29 PM
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if one denies certain aspect of their self maybe this will lead to a longer journey of figuring out who we are? Of course we all want to say we are love, and then hate comes up and we resist that, try to push it out, maybe even try and say neti neti. How about if when a negative emotion comes up we say, I am that, accepting, and moving forward.
some thoughts
for I am those as well.
Neil
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chinna
United Kingdom
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Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 10:03:22 AM
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thank you brother neil. I agree.
'I am', one's true Self, is everything in the field of perception, the field of perception, the act of perceiving and the perceiver. I am all of these and I am beyond all of these.
Nothing is excluded. In this dualistic world, I am good and bad, joy and suffering, me and other, etc. I cannot be one and not the other. Indeed if there was only one of each of these dualisms, the other would be meaningless and would not exist. For this 'I Am' to be, all of this must exist. This is the jnana realisation.
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brother neil
USA
752 Posts |
Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 10:31:45 PM
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any good books on realizing the non dual self? or does realizing the dual self help to realize non dual?
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chinna
United Kingdom
241 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2009 : 2:00:35 PM
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Originally posted by brother neil
any good books on realizing the non dual self? or does realizing the dual self help to realize non dual?
You can't do better than the recorded teachings of Ramana Maharshi and of Nisargadatta Maharaj. The former is the most influential non-dual sage of the 20th century, on which much of the neo-advaita movement rests. He teaches atma-vichara as the only effective practice. There's also an ashram with a website and a journal 'Mountain Path', which has had many distinguished contributers in its time, and a thriving pilgrimage business to Tiruvannamalai. Nisargadatta is more direct, with little to interest any but the most serious student of advaita, but takes a bit of patience before his language really sinks in and one's perception is re-oriented.
Any practice of introspection is helpful. We have to start with the dual self, which gradually opens up to the non-dual, boundariless, Self which all in fact IS. The practice of enquiring into the 'self' "Who or what am I?", from time to time throughout the day, as recommended by Ramana, until it becomes a disposition, until one becomes an open question, until one can't offer any answer at all, is what leads the jnani to the goal. Nisargadatta and others are helpful in orienting this question, breaking open the mind's defensive reaction of defining everything, reifying everything, making it abstract, making it fixed, a concept. The dual self is a concept, the first concept on which all other concepts depend, and it is the dissolution of this concept, and seeing through the process of its conception, which introduces us to the non-dual, our real Self.
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porcupine
USA
193 Posts |
Posted - Sep 01 2009 : 10:37:13 PM
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| i always say yes to my self, because other people say no |
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cosmic
USA
821 Posts |
Posted - Sep 02 2009 : 01:07:58 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by porcupine
i always say yes to my self, because other people say no
I say yes to your self too. |
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porcupine
USA
193 Posts |
Posted - Sep 05 2009 : 12:23:53 AM
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| i say yes to yourself cosmo! |
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cosmic
USA
821 Posts |
Posted - Sep 05 2009 : 11:19:24 PM
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beetsmyth
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 8:48:54 PM
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| who is I? and where does this "say yes" come from? |
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littlejerry
USA
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Posted - Oct 03 2009 : 11:55:14 AM
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| whats it mean duality?...nonduality?... is it reality and say your perception of reality? |
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