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divinefurball

USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 :  3:51:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I'm posting these quotes in the hope that some others might find them helpfull and/or intereting, ie: as possible ingedients for your drinks, and civil discussion thereof. Cheers, dfb

"I put forward at once - lest I break with my style, which is affirmative and deals with contradiction and criticisim, only as a means, only involuntarily - the three tasks for which educators are required. One must learn to see, one must learn to think, one must learn to speak and write: the goal of all three is a noble culture. Learning to see - accustoming the eye to calmness, to patience, to letting things come up to it; postponing judgment, learning to go around and grasp each individual case from all sides. That is the first preliminary schooling for spirituality: Not to react at once to a stimulus, but to gain control of all the inhibiting excluding instincts. Learning to see, as I understand it, is almost what unphilisophically speaking is called a strong will: the essential feature is precisly not to "will" - to be able to suspend decision. All un-spirituality, all vulgar commonness, depend on the inability to resist a stimulus: one must react, one follows every impulse."

"The psycology of the orgiastic as an overflowing feeling of life and strength, where even pain still has the affect of a stimulus, gave me the key to the concept of tragic feeling...Saying Yes to life even in its strangest and hardest problems,the will to life rejoiceing over its own inexaustability even in the very sacrifice of its highest types - that is what I called Dionisian, that is what I guessed to be the bridge to the psychology of the tragic poet. Not in order to be liberated from terror and pity, not in order to purge onself of a dangerous affect by its vehement discharge...but in order to be onself the eternal joy of becoming, beyond all terror and pity - that joy which included even joy in destroying"

"This world: a monster of energy, without beginning, without end; a firm iron magnitude of force that does not grow bigger or smaller, that does not expend itself but only transforms itself...a houshold without expenses or loses, but likewise without increase or income...set in a definite space as a definite force, and not a space that might be "empty" here or there, but rather as force throughout, as a play of forces and waves of forces...increasing here and at the same time decreasing there...eternally changing, eternally flooding back, with tremendous years of reccurance, with an ebb and a flood of its forms; out of the simplest forms striving towards the most complex, out of the stillest, most riged, coldest forms toward the hottest, most turbulent,most contradictory...this my Dionisian world of the eternally self-creating, the eternally self-destroying...This world is will to power and nothing besides!"

"The pangs of a woman giving birth hallow all pain."

"I am all the names in history."

"Love of one is a barbarism for it is excercised at the expense of all others. The love of God too."

"The degree and kind of a man's sexuality reach up into the ultimate pinnicle of his spirit."

"What is done out of love, always occours beyond good and evil.'




miguel

Spain
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 :  4:24:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Nietsche was a very intelligent man.He had a very powerful force inside...wow...
I found some things in his books which i didnt like and made me cry...but also i found other things really amazing.He was a titan.

Edited by - miguel on Jun 21 2009 4:28:30 PM
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divinefurball

USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 :  4:44:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi miguel, thanks for your response. I feel much the same way about him. It shows though, how Everyone can give us something if we are open, just as we can give to everyone who comes in contact with us if they are. But that doesn't mean we have to accept the whole recipe, or force things on others that they don't want!

All The Best, dfb
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miguel

Spain
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Posted - Jun 21 2009 :  5:53:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree.
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divinefurball

USA
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Posted - Jun 22 2009 :  5:19:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is Nietzche's Hammer of Reccurance:

"The greatest stress. How, if some day or night a demon were to sneak after you in your loneliest loneliness, and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain, and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything immesurably small or great in this life must return to you - all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned over and over, and you with it, a dust grain of dust." Would you throw yourself down and knash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? or did you once experience a tremendous moment when you would have answerd him, "You are a god and never have I heard anything more godly." If this thought were to gain posession of you, it would change you, as you are, or perhaps crush you. The question in each and everything "Do you want this once more and innumerable times more?" would weigh upon your actions as the greatest stress. Oh how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal."
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