AYP Public Forum
AYP Public Forum
AYP Home | Main Lessons | Tantra Lessons | AYP Plus | Retreats | AYP Books
Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Forum FAQ | Search
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 AYPsite.org Forum
 Satsang Cafe - General Discussions on AYP
 Question about disembodiment
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

Kyman

530 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2007 :  09:48:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kyman's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I have a question about disembodied spirits and souls of people died but keep on living.

Do all the old tales and supersitions about disembodied spirits truly mean there are literaly disembodied spirits? Could that be one way the brain interprets its intuition?

Perhaps on the soul and identity level a person has died, from a heartbreak like loss, accident, brutal and crush childhood abuse of the worst kind? They are disconnected from the body. They are in another world now. That have aren't 'connected' to the body of christ or body of love, or body of logic, body of loving kind. They are not connected and so disembodied.

The hungry ghost refers to such a state? So why not?

If fact, if you interpret a lot of our paranormal beliefs and other rich cultural and traditional ideas, on an intuitional level they make sense. But how should our insights be made to serve our undersand of what.

When think of a ball of light or a non human entity, I think of pixies and energy beings. When I think of a disbodied spirit or ghost, I think of it being played out as an actual body walking the earth. Lets say someone dies tragically and does accept they are dead, then maybe they are reborn as that person and grow into a body that loses all its memories. The soul of that person complete forgets, but then pick up exactly where they left off but with a new disposition that is different, but not that different at all if you think about it.

So a disembodied soul could be disembodied in many fashions. All of them are disconnected from the present honest experience of reality through a functioning form, but sometimes they can still be connected to the body by degree or have moved on to a complete new body, playing out the same old life. Why could a disembodied soul not have resent its and accept starting over with a new template? It could not even realize it is doing so without higher energy activity present.

Why go into a poker game think you have a 3 card hand or a royal straight when you are only playing with jokers? Why go into life with your old desires and feelings and beliefs, when you have a totally new hand to play off of, good or bad?

Doc

USA
394 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2007 :  11:06:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Doc's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kyman!

In many spiritual/religious traditions it is believed that the soul/consciousness of those who die un-natural deaths are likely to remain in the astral realms as dis-embodied spirits, ghosts, poltergeists, and the like...especially in cases of very painful or violent deaths, which are viewed as forcing the soul/consciousness out of the body un-naturally and prematurely. It is also believed that many, if not most of these deceased, may not even realize that they are no longer physically alive, and thus tend to 'hang out' near their familiar 'haunts'...i.e. the places where they formerly lived and/or died for an indefinite period of time if not assisted in completing their transition to the spiritual realms.

In the Tibetan Bon and Buddhist Traditions, for example, the 'Book of the Dead' is read and studied while still alive in order to learn how to transit safely and most effectively from the physical realm to the afterlife spiritual realm of being, and is read aloud in the presence of a deceased person's body, or in their behalf even without the body present, to assist and instruct the deceased in making their transition during a period of time following their death.

Similarly, other cultures and religious/spiritual traditions have specific 'Rites for the Dead', including special prayers, invocations, and practices to assist the deceased and/or to petition Divine Aid on their behalf in order to help them finally transit into the 'Light'. Here's a Greek Orthodox Christian example used in services for the deceased, and recited by many Orthodox whenever passing a cemetery:

"May the Souls of the Faithful Departed, through the Mercy of God, Rest in Peace, and may Perpetual Light Shine upon them. May they find a place of Brightness and of Beauty, where the Just repose, and may their Memory be Eternal (in the Mind of God). Amen"

Doc
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
AYP Public Forum © Contributing Authors (opinions and advice belong to the respective authors) Go To Top Of Page
This page was generated in 0.05 seconds. Snitz Forums 2000