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Reno2233
USA
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 Posted - Jan 05 2025 : 11:48:37 PM
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Hello AYPers!
I have a question relating to tantric practice and pornography compulsion. Before AYP, I would try to abstain from pornography, masturbation and orgasm by will. Going stints of a couple weeks to a month or even months without use. Prior to active abstaining, in my childhood years I would indulge constantly from middle school through high school, college and into my adult years. Sometimes often on a daily basis as deeply ingrained from my adolescent years.
Now after AYP, I've been introduced to the tantric practices: holdback, blocking and the count method. It is said we can use any vice to go higher by the means of tantra. I've been using tantric methods (solo) in relation to pornography, holding back before orgasm.
The issue with that is now, anytime I get an urge for porn or to view, I engage using the tantric methods. As a result, I'll watch porn or indulge under the premise of solo tantric practice. Which has led to me watching porn everyday under the guise of holdback. My concern is I am exposing myself to more pornography than I did when actively trying to abstain. In addition, after a week or so of this, I eventually give in and fully orgasm because the pressure building is too great.
This has been the constant cycle for about a year now. And I feel it's harming my progress since I end up releasing the energy needed for preorgasmic building.
So my question is, should I leave pornography out of the equation all together? And am I going about this tantric practice in the wrong manner?
I'm not currently sexually active with another partner and there are no waiting prospects.. so I've only practiced tantra in this regard, with use of pornography and solo. Does anyone have experience with pornography compulsion and transitioning to pre orgasmic living?
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Jan 06 2025 : 5:31:23 PM
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Hi Reno2233,
Obviously, the use of pornography is not encouraged in the AYP approach. On the other hand, if there is a tendency that way, the AYP tantric methods for preserving and cultivating sexual energy upward in the nervous system can be applied, as with any kind of sexual activity. No lifestyle is condemned in the AYP approach, as long as harm to others is not happening. And, as often reminded, the cultivation of abiding inner silence in daily deep meditation is the prerequisite for all of these techniques to work. With that, the results will come in time.
If an ingrained habit and conduct are being harmful to ourselves, then it is our choice on what to do about it. If there is an addiction to pornography, then dealing with that more directly might be considered, through a form of behavior modification, a support group or 12 step program. Tantric methods alone may or may not be enough to move beyond a sexual addiction, or any other addiction. In such cases, considering finding additional help has been advised. The AYP techniques are very powerful, but they are not a cure all for everything that may be ailing us. So seeking medical advice or other kinds of specialized help may be advisable in some situations.
It is your call, of course. It is going to be alright.
All the best!
The guru is in you. 
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - Jan 06 2025 : 8:25:42 PM
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As the witness becomes established and silence is felt in and out of practice, we become more aware of our thoughts that come, and in acknowledging them it becomes easier to examine them and pair them with feelings we too witness and acknowledge. It is healthy to take the next step and inquire of them, for instance, what is it that drives me to desire watching strangers entangled? Do I feel content or shame in this practice? Am I avoiding something in this action? Is there a healthier outlet to express my sexuality when lacking a partner?
There is nothing wrong with pornography per se, but ultimately you should care how you expend your attention, because as you progress, your attention has influence, and it is better to give yourself attention than to give it away unawares. |
Edited by - Dogboy on Jan 06 2025 8:26:49 PM |
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Reno2233
USA
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Posted - Jan 08 2025 : 04:13:14 AM
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Hello Yogani & Dogboy!
It is great to see both your names across the screen again. From what I gather, the ultimate goal with practice is to move away from obsessions like pornography. Although AYP doesn't condemn any practice or lifestyle. My ultimate goal and hope is to abide in ecstatic bliss and inner silence. My intuitive feeling is that porn really has no place in that equation.
As Dogboy advised, I will need to do a better job of letting the desire sit in silence and to inquire further. As of recent, I am always very aware of the urge/desire when it arises, but I indulge after some time. Maybe this is due to not allowing it to sit in silence longer, and not giving it more time in attention/awareness?
Either way, I'm going to work to move away from pornography and usage. It's just I am not sexual active partner wise currently, and feel I'll miss out on the energetic gains from tantric sexual practice. But Realistically, the pull to orgasm is just too strong with continual porn usage, for me at least. This could've been engrained from my younger years as well. Thank you again and in advance!
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