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 Is jalandhara required for kumbhaka with kechari.
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dinah shorter972

Australia
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Posted - Aug 09 2018 :  06:00:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
In another post Yogani has mentioned that jandhara is not used in AYP spinal breathing. This issue has puzzled me and perhaps it is from my Iyengar training, but in Iyengar style we were taught to always keeps the head down in sitting pranayama. I had internalized this so much that I had believed that this gave protection to the delicate mechanism of breathing. Now I am not so sure anymore and am a little puzzled. When I began practice with kechari mudra it felt that keeping the head down didn't feel right and so I changed my entire pranayama practice to dynamic jalandhara because it felt that this allowed more freedom of energy flow. Well now after 3 years of AYP I have been drawn to practice regular spinal breathing without the head movements and so at first kept the head down as in Iyengar till Yogani mentioned that AYP spinal breathing is not done that way. Well anyway, I now practice with my head up and balanced and it feels better and more light and open but I guess I am still seeking reassurance that this is the correct way to practice spinal breathing including retention of breath. the head is up as in meditation? yes? I guess it should be a clear yes or no asnwer but my practice is always evolving so I would like to know clearly and simply. right now my practice consists of 10 minutes spinal breathing, 5 or 10 minutes chin pump, 15 minutes mantra and have recently introduced the samyama.All of this is done in stage 3 kechari. In short, does kechari replace jalandhara?
This feels right but any clarity is appreciated

Edited by - dinah shorter972 on Aug 09 2018 06:01:47 AM

jusmail

India
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Posted - Aug 09 2018 :  09:28:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum. Spinal breathing is separate. Read more in lesson 39/41. Dynamic Jalandara bandha involves stage 1 kechari. This is an optional practice that may or may not be done.
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BlueRaincoat

United Kingdom
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Posted - Aug 09 2018 :  2:05:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by dinah shorter972
Well now after 3 years of AYP I have been drawn to practice regular spinal breathing without the head movements


That is correct practice in AYP. We do not drop the chin during spinal breathing, nor during meditation. We hold the head in a comfortable position, not making any attempt to nudge it either up or down.

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Originally posted by dinah shorter972
does kechari replace jalandhara?

No. They are different practices.
You may choose to include either or both, at the appropriate time, of course, in your yoga routine.
Jalandhara involves ketchari stage 1. That doesn't mean that, as you progress through stages 2,3 etc. of kechari, you have to stop doing jalandhara. It's your choice whether you continue to practice it or not. If you continue to practice it, you will of course use kechari stage 1 as part of the jalandhara procedure, as described in the lessons.
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