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lalow33
USA
966 Posts |
Posted - Jul 03 2016 : 10:00:38 PM
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Well, you are doing better than me. Did I not tell you that you were doing fine???? I meant it. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 03 2016 : 10:14:32 PM
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True.. You did and I thank you for it. Just trying to get through all these mood swings I have been getting before I can get more inner silence.
Everybody says I need more inner silence. Just subscribed to plus and been trying to understand the inner silence thingy. And how to get more. |
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lalow33
USA
966 Posts |
Posted - Jul 03 2016 : 10:54:11 PM
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Honestly, I don't know. I'd listen to other practitioners, for real. I still think you are golden. No real worries for you. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 06:27:21 AM
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Again thank you lalow I appreciate all of you guys and girls trying and helping me out I may not act like it but I do appreciate all these new friendships |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 06:34:32 AM
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On a different note..lol
You guys suggest to me to start on the lessons. Some of you have told me not to meditate at this point. But most of the lessons almost state there main goal is meditation. I am kind of restless this morning and I did notice it said that is normal.
Just like I thought I wanted more sleep this morning but my energy started to stir and woke me up. I tried to ignore it and turn back over and fall asleep again. But no, I started to have my very own light show a couple were bright enough to wake me up. So I thought (sigh) ok ok my body wins. |
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jean
Germany
107 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 08:28:28 AM
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One thing that helped me a lot is to take B-Vitamin supplements since Kundalini puts a lot of pressure onto the nervous system. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 09:47:29 AM
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thank you jean, i am not sure at this point what helps out. i am confused more than anything one day i am totally fine the next day my body is in total karma. and one day my energy does not tell me what it wants but, not even 12hrs later it is screaming at me what it wants. |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 10:06:14 AM
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Only you will know what to do. The rest is guidance and suggestions. But you're your own detective. So, try meditation, or not. Calm down, or not. Your choice.
I'm just sharing what's worked for me, as are others. The whole AYP platform in a nutshell is Yogani essentially saying: This is what's worked for me. Try it for yourself, and make your own personal adjustments to suit your needs.
Here's a very important tip about meditation. You will know if it's good for you based on how you feel after the session, and how the peacefulness trickles out into your daily activity. The actual session can be clunky at times with different scenery, but that is just the house cleaning that comes with purification and opening of the nervous system.
Seeing lights and colors is normal. I see them often. But inner silence is beyond that even. It's simpler, less grandoise. It's both closer, and more further away. It's not something that can be captured, only surrendered to, and resided in. We are That. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 1:41:27 PM
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Oh I will definitely give it a try just became a plus member last night. I am not too worried about the lights like you said it's not the first time I have seen them just saying that's what happened.
I just don't like them when they wake me up. |
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sunyata
USA
1513 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 7:29:50 PM
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Hi JR8036,
Here Yogani explains inner lovemaking. Take this as an inspiration to start practices when you are able to.
quote: Q: I am reading more and more about practices, and personally practicing your techniques. The one thing I feel really different about is when I practice my daily morning pranayama, my breathing before wouldn't necessarily achieve that silence in my head immediately. But after practicing holdback method and channeling my sexual energy my pranayamas have improved dramatically. As even after one round of pranayama I have a serene silence. I can't describe it well, I stop thinking and I feel like my mind is reaching outside the brain a bit, if that's an accurate description.
Though I have a recurring question in mind which I felt maybe sharing it with you I could get some answers on. The human body needs to balance its inner male and female energies (shakti and shiva energies), right? Now once this is done we become neutral beings with a balance inside us. We are not inner male only or inner female, but both, hence, making it both or neither. When this happens what is our physical body for?
For example, once the inner balance has been achieved then we are not male or female anymore, are we? We become Light Beings. Hence, what is the need and reason for a physical body?
Just some thoughts which are running through my head. As the more I study and contemplate the more questions arise. Would love to understand it further with your help.
A: Ah, you have found the experiential connection between tantric methods and sitting practices. Yes, that is the extra dimension that brahmacharya can bring us. When I say brahmacharya, I don't mean celibacy, of course. I mean preservation and cultivation of sexual energy, which is what holdback and long preorgasmic cultivation are about. It works, yes? When you add advanced siddhasana for women and mudras and bandhas into your sitting practice (maybe you did already?), then you will eventually be doing internal preorgasmic cultivation for the entire time of spinal breathing, meditation, samyama and so on. In the end, sexual cultivation and cultivation of ecstatic conductivity become one and the same and are happening all the time, even outside practices. It becomes an automatic part of our biological functioning This is constant inner lovemaking.
As the process proceeds, the male and female components in us do not disappear. They continue to integrate within. So, while our inner attitudes and sexuality outwardly may become more balanced, we do not become androgynous in the sense of becoming non-sexual beings. Just the opposite. We become the field constant lovemaking of the feminine and masculine energies within us -- a constant orgy of shakti and shiva energies. In more mundane terms, it is the blending of ecstatic conductivity and inner silence. This inner process of enlightenment has also been called the blending of euphoria and emptiness within the human being. As we progress, that is advancing all the time, and the body (human nervous system) is the field of play for this. So we'd like to keep the body around to continue this process as far as we can go with it. A final reason to keep the body is for service. As we rise into enlightenment, we find ourselves with the combined qualities of unshakable inner silence, ecstatic bliss and outpouring divine love. Then all around us become as dear to us as our own Self. So, naturally we'd like to stay and stimulate the emergence of divine joy in everyone as much as we can. These are the reasons for a sage to keep on living in the body. It is a natural evolution, which we are hastening along (fertilizing and watering) with our yoga practices. We'd all like to take full advantage of the sacred temple, our human nervous system, as long as we can. It is for ourselves and for everyone that we do it.
Wishing you continuing success on your chosen spiritual path. Enjoy
The guru is in you
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 9:44:18 PM
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Between inner lovemaking and inner silence they both sound great it would be nice to have my mind slow down for once. Too bad it can't happen overnight. |
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sunyata
USA
1513 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 10:28:10 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JR8036
Between inner lovemaking and inner silence they both sound great it would be nice to have my mind slow down for once. Too bad it can't happen overnight.
Do you journal? I would recommend starting one, if you don't have one already. Write down everything that's coming up.
There is already 6 pages of advise here. I'm sure you have heard the saying- God helps those who help themselves. People have spent their entire life, decades, years dedicated to their practices. It takes time.
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2016 : 10:44:47 PM
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No I don't I have never done anything like that. In a way that is kind of what I am doing right now. It is just a big plus to everyone that has said there advice. I never thought I would get this big of a response. Some of you have commented from the very beginning and I consider you people good friends and hope to meet others.
I do look over things everybody has said from time to time and it has been a big help. Like right now I am reading over things with no headaches I might add thanks to you all |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 05 2016 : 9:18:43 PM
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I am sure I should let it pass like everything else but, why is it during a meditation sitting that I feel chills? When right before I started I felt fine? And after it was over I went back to feeling fine again?
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 07 2016 : 07:33:29 AM
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so I am going to be out for the next 2 days. Should I meditate away from home if I have the free time? Or should I just wait till I get back home? |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Jul 07 2016 : 07:53:23 AM
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Chills (goosebumps) are a normal symptom of purification.
The ideal routine is to meditate twice daily, regardless of where we are. It's just like brushing teeth. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 7:28:32 PM
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When I started to meditate again I got headaches or the fealling high sensation now over a week later I don't feel them. Is that when I need to start making my sittings longer? I started out at 5min then worked up to 10min and now 15min. And no headaches even with the 15min ones.
On a side note now since the past week I have been having dreams almost every damn night. Some are harder to recal than others but, man. No nightmares yet anyway most of them are just really strange like the first ones I started having. It's almost annoying it's like what will I dream about tonight? |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 7:56:37 PM
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I have lots of dreams too. Some stranger than others.
Re: increasing your sitting time, I would reside in a stable routine a little longer before making any further changes. Let it ride for a couple weeks or months before adding the extra 5 minutes. Since you are coming from a rocky place, it is important to establish a solid foundation before rushing too fast towards premature progress. Enjoy the smoothness for a little while before you press the accelerator again. But, it's your call, of course. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 8:19:29 PM
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Ok thanks they do fluctuate from 10 to 15 min that is the times that I feel comfortable with. It has seemed to calm down atleast for a while now. I'm sure it's probably because of the meditation. I still have mood swings but I don't think they swing as fast as what they used to. Or it could be just me..lol |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 15 2016 : 07:48:38 AM
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Many of you have said the best thing for me to do is to surrender and that has gotten me thinking and I even looked it up some. I think I am doing it but I am not sure if I am or not.
So my question is this how do you surrender? What ways do you guys do it? Or is there any "best" way? I'm sure it depends on the person of course. |
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Dogboy
USA
2294 Posts |
Posted - Jul 17 2016 : 10:42:34 PM
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When you eventually get to samyama practice, releasing sutras into silence, this action goes a long way into making surrender an automatic thing. But samyama is way to soon for you to start, but keep it in the future queue. A good way to practice surrender now is to notice when you may be angry, or irritated, or solemn, hold it in your being for a moment and then allow yourself to feel something lighter, softer. If you can, then that is surrender. Peace, brother.
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Edited by - Dogboy on Jul 17 2016 10:43:31 PM |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2016 : 07:18:16 AM
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Ok thanks I had a suspicion there would be more to it than just simply raising a white flag and saying I give up. I have tried that and it didn't work.
Here lately I know it's not the way but, I try to go back to my old ways. Trying not to admit that this is not real that this is not really happening. This is going to be much tougher than what I thought especially trying to give in to a new future and giving up my past. |
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Charliedog
1625 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2016 : 08:49:11 AM
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quote: Originally posted by JR8036
This is going to be much tougher than what I thought especially trying to give in to a new future and giving up my past.
Stay in the middle JR, between the past and the future, enjoy the moment of now. No hurry.
You are doing fine, it just takes time... |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2016 : 09:45:50 AM
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Thanks Charlie that is just what I needed. Last week was rough and the weekend was rougher I don't know why I can't ever get a break. |
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JR8036
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2016 : 6:36:42 PM
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Think I just found the answer to what cures my headaches. This morning I was tired and run down of the routine of meditation so I just skipped this morning. During the morning I felt fine and did not think anything of it. Then about mid afternoon I thought I could feel headaches coming back and towards the end of the work day I felt like crap because of them. So as soon as I got off I meditated. And WOW how did I get this addicted to meditation this quick!? I'm starting to feel better now after I done it. |
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