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Etherfish
USA
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 Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 02:41:20 AM
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It's definitely worth a shot.
I am using my $1 Chinese ESD wrist straps and they seem to be working well. I could be imagining it, but I think I am getting a feel for when I am well grounded. I can't feel as it is happening, but hours later, I get this feeling of a little heavy, but simple and happy. It seems to quiet my mind. That may be a side effect of DM in conjunction with grounding, but I get this very quiet feeling that there is nothing worth thinking about; just relax. That's got to be healing in itself. |
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Will Power
Spain
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Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 1:01:56 PM
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| I received 2 days ago the ESD mat, let's see how it goes. I use it under my laptop, where I can be in touch with it for many hours at work |
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 1:25:35 PM
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I got some esd straps in the post also.
Ether, I tried a continuity test to make sure it was all connected but found there is no continuity between the strap and the crocodile clip at the other end of the wire. I have three straps and it's the same on them all. It doesn't seem right, any ideas?
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Will Power
Spain
415 Posts |
Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 2:03:11 PM
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| I'd say ask the seller for a new one if their explanation doesn't satisfy you |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 6:17:38 PM
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Originally posted by Sparkle
I got some esd straps in the post also.
Ether, I tried a continuity test to make sure it was all connected but found there is no continuity between the strap and the crocodile clip at the other end of the wire. I have three straps and it's the same on them all. It doesn't seem right, any ideas?
It's probably OK. You need a sensitive ohm meter, not a continuity tester, that can measure through the resistor. |
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Nov 28 2013 : 7:35:03 PM
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Thanks Ether and Will Power
As soon as I put it on my wrist earlier I could feel something. At first I thought - this is probably placebo. I took it of and put it on a few times and there was a difference.
Then I just felt like resting with it and lay down for an hour. There is definitely something going on. Looking forward to sleeping a night with it.
It will probably ware off as I get used to it, but for the moment it is having a very "grounding" effect A bit like hugging a tree.
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Nov 29 2013 : 08:20:39 AM
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| Savasana should be grounding. ...no? |
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Sparkle
Ireland
1457 Posts |
Posted - Dec 02 2013 : 5:18:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sparkle
Thanks Ether and Will Power
As soon as I put it on my wrist earlier I could feel something. At first I thought - this is probably placebo. I took it of and put it on a few times and there was a difference.
Then I just felt like resting with it and lay down for an hour. There is definitely something going on. Looking forward to sleeping a night with it.
It will probably ware off as I get used to it, but for the moment it is having a very "grounding" effect A bit like hugging a tree.
I tried the wrist band that night and didn't get to sleep. Had energy through me from the wrist band for hours. Eventually I took it off and got to sleep.
I tested everything and it seems to be ok.
Tried a different plug socket last night and it was fine, no energy felt and had a good night sleep. I could definitely feel a charge from the other socket but the readings on a meter are exactly the same on the two sockets tried.
Beats me, any ideas?
maheswari, I think the idea is that even doing savasna you can still be insulated from physical contact with the earth and that is the purpose of the earth wire or strap. |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Dec 02 2013 : 6:33:51 PM
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There are so many tiny things that can be wrong with the ground in your electrical system, unless it's a new house. I would suspect bad grounding on the first one. The ground could be connected to the neutral. Everything would seem to test normal, but a small electrical leakage would be present, and babies could get shocked. Normal test procedures won't show such things; you'd have to drive a new earthing rod outside to use as a reference, and a super sensitive meter, and then it would only happen when certain other things in the house are running.
That's why I would use the electrical system only as a last resort. Most electricians wouldn't even know what I'm taking about, or how to test for it. But then, if you are driving a new rod for the test, you could use that clean ground for grounding and ignore the electrical system! |
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Dec 03 2013 : 07:08:35 AM
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Thanks again Ether
It's amazing how versatile this forum is.
I think I can tap onto a copper pipe which is the rising main, that should do the trick.
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Dec 03 2013 : 07:52:40 AM
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| Yes that should be very good. |
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lalow33
USA
966 Posts |
Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 11:04:55 AM
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I haven't watched the documentary. I read through the posts and looked up the wrist straps. I don't understand what the pincher clip at the end is to be attached to. I 'm in an apartment on the second floor.
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 8:34:45 PM
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| The clip is attached to a wire that is grounded. It is best to run it out a window directly into the earth. If that is not possible, you can have an electrician hook it to something that he says is grounded, sometimes the third prong on your wall outlet, or just the plate screw, or sometimes a metal plumbing pipe. |
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American Baba
USA
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Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 10:00:27 AM
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Just came across a website on Earthing that looks worthy of sharing for anyone interested in the topic. It appears to be well-organized, offers lots of information and provides free copies of peer reviewed studies on the matter.
Here’s the link: http://earthinginstitute.net/
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 9:52:58 PM
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Quick update having been "earthing" for more than a month now...
I have found that I can not handle having the patch directly on my new (metal) elbow. I don't know if it's because it is a metal joint but the patch on the elbow absolutely increases the amount of pain I feel (while wearing the patch) substantially. That said, putting the patch on the sole of my foot has resulted in nothing but good results. I need less sleep, have more energy, and feel clearer and more balanced in general. Very subjective results, but they do feel related to the earthing practice.
Love,
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Bodhi Tree
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Posted - Aug 26 2015 : 9:58:45 PM
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I just wanted to resurrect this thread because I watched this entire film last night. (It's been posted again on YouTube for free).
I've always done barefoot grounding sporadically as a natural pleasure, but after watching the movie, I'm inspired to make it more habitual, like daily meditation. Sometimes I have trouble sleeping due to excess energy bursts, so last night before bedtime, I went outside barefoot, laid down on the grass, and also touched/hugged some trees. I ended up sleeping really well and felt refreshed in the morning.
In addition to receiving from the Earth, I think I also give off my excess energy to the Earth, which is fantastic.
Highly recommend this movie and the practice of grounding/earthing so that the skin may stay in everyday contact with the flesh of our planet. |
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Ecdyonurus
Switzerland
479 Posts |
Posted - Aug 27 2015 : 05:45:41 AM
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I would really appreciate to read some new report from this community about those grounding tools since the last report (it was Carson's on december 2013). Any user experience during 2014 and 2015?
I consider buying an earthing kit but I am not convinced so far, mostly concerning long terms effects of such a practice.
Thank you in advance. |
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Will Power
Spain
415 Posts |
Posted - Aug 30 2015 : 1:42:40 PM
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| Hi, I stopped using the ESD mat under my laptop (which I connected to the earth connection of the plug on the wall) since it seemed that it wasn't working (in winter with the pullover I could feel static electricity and it didn't dissapear with the contact of the ESD mat). |
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kensbikes100
USA
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Posted - Sep 27 2015 : 8:27:39 PM
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In the discussions of basic recommended yoga practice here in the world of AYP, I have read that one should do 10 to 15 minutes of asana for grounding, then 5 minutes SBP, then 15 or 20 of DM. This Documentary thread has been speaking of electrical grounding of the human body to earth (through convenient and grounded pieces of metal). This measure is very familiar to any electrical engineer (like me), technician, or electrician. Even more so for me, since I worked in designing grounding and shielding to isolate sensitive equipment and systems from noise
So, is the use of the term "grounding" here, which refers to physically making an electrical connection between the human body and earth, the same as what is intended when we say that asana provides grounding that is beneficial before practicing SBP twice-daily? One usage is quite literal from my point of view, and the other seems figurative if not just plain obscure.
Is it the effect of electrical grounding that is desired? ESD grounding (with the 1 megohm strap) has the purpose of enabling random and small amounts of electric charge that the body may pick up to be conducted safety to Earth where they vanish effectively in the vast reserve of electrical charge that the Earth provides. The body can pick up charge from literally an uncountable number of natural and man-made environmental sources and occurrences. If they affect the nervous system (as an electrical engineer I cannot tell you anything about that) I could see them affecting sensitive yogis/yoginis. If this hypothetical effect is what we want as yogis, maybe that resolves the problem in my understanding.
But is AYP really saying that practicing asana in a random, non-natural environment grounds the body to the Earth?
BTW, we engineers are not taught about this stuff at University. Technical grounding, yes. Yoga grounding, no. |
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 2:02:14 PM
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Hi Kensbikes:
"Grounding" really has two definitions in this discussion:
1. Of the "electrical" kind, which is what the subject documentary is about, and professes to be. This is not an AYP assertion, just interesting information being shared.
2. Of the yogic energetic kind, which is about calming the inner spiritual (kundalini) energies and related symptoms, particularly when there is excessive flow.
The second can be aided by the first, but also includes measures that are not necessarily "electrical grounding," such as asanas (which are sometimes grounding and sometimes not), spinal breathing pranayama (ditto), exercise, social activity/service, temporary heavier diet, Ayurveda measures, and other things discussed in Lesson 69 and elsewhere in the lessons.
In AYP, we are most concerned with methods for grounding/calming the spiritual energies, which may or may not have an identifiable electrical component.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Sep 30 2015 : 08:57:28 AM
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Originally posted by Ecdyonurus
I would really appreciate to read some new report from this community about those grounding tools since the last report (it was Carson's on december 2013). Any user experience during 2014 and 2015?
I consider buying an earthing kit but I am not convinced so far, mostly concerning long terms effects of such a practice.
Thank you in advance.
Hi Ecdyonurus,
I only have a second to respond but the most recent update I've given regarding Earthing was on episode 12 of Trip1 and my podcast here: http://seekanddestroypodcast.com/?page_id=2
Love,
Carson |
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Ecdyonurus
Switzerland
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Posted - Sep 30 2015 : 09:47:58 AM
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Hi Carson, thanks for that second.
By the way: Actually, I already downloaded all of your podcasts including the one you linked. Used to listen to them on my iPhone, but the app now censored them... no idea how they manage to check podcasts with explicit "lyrics"...  |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Sep 30 2015 : 8:29:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ecdyonurus
Hi Carson, thanks for that second.
By the way: Actually, I already downloaded all of your podcasts including the one you linked. Used to listen to them on my iPhone, but the app now censored them... no idea how they manage to check podcasts with explicit "lyrics"...
Wow! Strange... I had no idea that was possible. Itunes probably doesn't "check" the podcasts though, we are labeled as Explicit Lyrics (accurately) by ourselves as I believe if you don't, and they *do* find out, your content is pulled.
Regarding earthing patches.... long story short, they work. Longer version is that there are a lot of variables involved that are going to determine how effective they are at treating any specific issue. Where the patch is placed (ie. sole of the foot, middle of the forehead etc) has a large impact on the results you will feel. The largest variable though is probably the human system. Everyone's "matrix of obstructions," to borrow the AYP verbiage, is different and it is probably the largest factor as to how the earthing patches will be experienced. I used them on and off for a couple of years and they were helping until they weren't anymore. Then I stopped using them. I would say that if energy grounding is a problem for you (ie, headaches, mania, emotional instability, electronic interference, sleep issues, dramatic energy fluctuations etc) then the patches will likely help somewhat. My only suggestion would be to remain diligent in staying aware of the effects and stopping when the patches begin to aggravate more than assist (which is what happened to me).
Hope this helps.
Love,
Carson |
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Ecdyonurus
Switzerland
479 Posts |
Posted - Oct 01 2015 : 04:37:35 AM
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| Hi Carson, thank you for your reply - very helpful! |
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kensbikes100
USA
192 Posts |
Posted - Jan 24 2016 : 08:04:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sparkle
Thanks Ether
I see there is another video further down the page which I'm half way through, its one and a half hours long and then there is the written stuff.
Very interesting, having a grounded room sounds great, do you know how to go about making one.
When I think about the comfortable materials, like wood, carpet, mattresses etc., they are all insulators. Do you know of any easy ways to ground a floor that won't be too cold in winter or a mattress?
I'm thinking of meditating on a sheet of tinfoil connected to a wire going to earth to see if it feels different.
On the question of grounded plumbing, I think it is a regulation in the UK and Ireland and maybe Europe that all taps and fittings where there is water have to be earthed. The mains voltage here is 230volts whereas in USA it is 110V, as far as I know and therefore less need for earthing.
In the USA it is also required to properly ground the plumbing. The 120 volt standard is quite dangerous, even though it is about half the voltage of the EU systems.
The threshold of safety is taken as 48 volts, at least for DC systems. But overall it's best not to connect your body to the "+" side of any power system.
The good thing about making your own ground connection is that you can know it is done correctly. No questions like, "are the pipes actually in connection and free of improper connections to the power supply? Is the ground wire (third or green wire) actually connected to ground?" If you connect it yourself then you know. |
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"Grounded" -- The Documentary
