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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Nov 19 2013 :  9:46:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Still having some deep stillness during my sits. I've had some odd anxious feelings in the gut as of late for no reason. Also coolness to the skin and hands/feet. Could just be this cold weather!

This afternoon, I had the sensation of a large bug flying/buzzing near my ear. It freaked me out. There was nothing there. Was like a big moth or small bird fluttered its wings right by my head and flew off. Very brief, very distinct.

Automatic yoga has settled down a bit during my meditations. I have been noticing "energy" that leans towards the pain side of things. Nothing serious, but it's not a pleasurable energy like the searching energy related to the automatic yoga. I find myself sinking deeply into the stillness quite readily when I start my meditations. As if the body is eager to begin.

The cool sensations I mentioned earlier are also noticeable when not meditating, and often it is experienced in the nostrils while breathing. My sensation of the incoming air is quite pronounced. Even just paying a bit of attention to the breath during the day will put me into a slight reverie.

With the deep stillness during sits, I feel as if I've reached a new stage with the practice. Keeping the mind still is much easier when I reach this body stillness, and that is becoming more and more natural to sink into.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 04 2013 :  02:45:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I feel as if I've lost some momentum in my sits after a trip out of town last week to visit family. I'm slowly getting back into the groove though. It's tough meditating while traveling, at least for me.

I've been reading quite a bit of esoteric kundalini-based articles as of late, and some related videos online. The most interesting thing I've come across is the Toaist "inner landscape" and "inner alchemy". Basically the Chinese versions of chakras, kundalini and such. I stumbled across that after looking for further info on manly P. Hall's "Occult Anatomy", which is an imaginative way to look at things.

Meditation experiences haven't changed much since the last description. Automatic yoga and the "searching energy" has toned down somewhat as of the most recent sits.

Definitely feel like I am going through a "nothing is happening" stage. It's funny how on one hand we are told "it's subtle, and you'll see small changes in your everyday life", but then you read the AYP books and forums and people are talking about ecstatic conductivity, kundalini firehoses, unending deep stillness and bliss. Can seem a bit contradictory.

I'm sticking with things as I enjoy the sits and the habit. But I will admit that I do have a desire for more validation that I am headed in the right direction.
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chinmayo

Finland
67 Posts

Posted - Dec 04 2013 :  05:19:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, good to hear from you also!

For me, the automatic yoga and other kundalini "symptoms" have disappeared also, but I think that the sitting itself is becoming more and more enjoyable still. It's actually easier to sit when you are not constantly having something going on distracting from the actual practise :-)

Are you doing any physical yoga before the sitting? I found, that by doing some asanas before the sit actually help. Moreover, some asanas, when done correctly, increase the strenght of the spine making the seated meditation less of a burden and for me, it has helped to rid the back pain I used to get while sitting.

Blessed love!
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 04 2013 :  12:38:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by chinmayo

Hello, good to hear from you also!

For me, the automatic yoga and other kundalini "symptoms" have disappeared also, but I think that the sitting itself is becoming more and more enjoyable still. It's actually easier to sit when you are not constantly having something going on distracting from the actual practise :-)

Are you doing any physical yoga before the sitting? I found, that by doing some asanas before the sit actually help. Moreover, some asanas, when done correctly, increase the strenght of the spine making the seated meditation less of a burden and for me, it has helped to rid the back pain I used to get while sitting.

Blessed love!



Thank you for the comments! I have been doing the AYP "asana starter kit" before sits, probably about a month now. I also do mula banda during spinal breathing, as well as the breath constriction on exhale (I forget the name). I've put sambhavi mudra on hold while I make mula bandha more natural and effortless. I had been doing that for a small while.

But I agree, the automatic yoga was exciting at first, but quickly became a distraction. I take the reduction in its effects as a good sign, but it also was a nice external validation for a skeptical mind :)
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kami

USA
920 Posts

Posted - Dec 04 2013 :  1:07:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Yogaman

Definitely feel like I am going through a "nothing is happening" stage. It's funny how on one hand we are told "it's subtle, and you'll see small changes in your everyday life", but then you read the AYP books and forums and people are talking about ecstatic conductivity, kundalini firehoses, unending deep stillness and bliss. Can seem a bit contradictory.

I'm sticking with things as I enjoy the sits and the habit. But I will admit that I do have a desire for more validation that I am headed in the right direction.



Hi Yogaman,

Thank you for sharing.

Thought I'd share that this is my general experience as well - long periods of nothing happening. At least nothing to write home about. In fact, for nearly 2 years after starting AYP, I avoided these forums altogether, because absolutely nothing that people described here was happening to me - no fireworks, no great Kundalini stuff.. And reading about others' experiences made me feel inadequate. But my relative undersensitivity has allowed me to go over the top with bhakti and practices without any problems - I can and frequently do heavily intensify practices during such quiet times (disclaimer - not recommended). Despite "nothing happening", the unfolding goes on. Occasionally, there is a spark of this or that, but really, it is all about how daily life is transformed.

Also, this unfolding can (and for many of us, will) go on for many more lifetimes.. And, I'm actually totally OK with it, which by itself is a sign that things are "happening".

Love and peace.
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Yonatan

Israel
849 Posts

Posted - Dec 04 2013 :  10:06:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting you say that kami, about being OK with unfolding in more future lives Because this is my experience too, when first beginning to be interested in spiritual stuff and a couple of years after that all I wanted was to stop the cycle of incarnations and get off this painful earth But now after a few years of AYP I am really absolutely OK and fine with incarnating how many more lives are needed to unfold Because I know it's all for the best and the good of me and all. Pure grace unfolding. Pure Love expressing. And I know I am not in any danger. Becuase my faith became so much stronger in the universal unfolding of things and the knowledge that it is all for Love How blissful is that?? (makes my cry!).

Much Love Yogaman and I agree with kami, sometimes there is an explosion of insight or energy, openings, but , at least for me, a lot of the time is just gradual and consistent unfolding which can be hard to see in one point in time, but after time has passed you see how much you've grown.

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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 05 2013 :  04:07:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Kami and Yonatan: thanks for the thoughts :) I'm not much of a believer in future incarnations at the moment, I'm attracted to this system for the claims of direct experience.

I did have a nice sit tonight. Seemed to be able to reach some deep stillness once again. Had some pulsation in the perineum during spinal breathing while doing mula bandha.

I read up on the jhanas and access concentration tonight. I believe I've started to experience brief periods of access concentration since about a month ago. I notice a definite change in character in the experience, and it seems to match the descriptions I've read online. It's definitely a peaceful zone to be in.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 08 2013 :  01:19:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Some nice sits the past days. I've noticed a change in my spinal breathing, the "energy" is more mobile now, having some effects similar to the automatic yoga I experience (head and neck movements). I've also been working on my sitting posture. I feel as if I may not be offering my back the ideal situation, and if I were to have a more ideal posture I'd be able to slip into stillness much more deeply. As is, I find myself constantly micro-managing my posture. I can feel the body and the mind wanting to go to complete stillness, but the posture seems to be limiting that.
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KellyN

75 Posts

Posted - Dec 08 2013 :  02:29:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Yogaman, I am right there with you about posture struggles i have been integrating sidhasana and finding it quite uncomfortable with the foot under me growing numb on several occasions....quite distracting! To alleviate that, i just went back to my usual cross legged sits. Interesting to read about head jerking movements. I just attributed it to dozing-off- into -yonder -sleep, haha. Seriously, i have had my head jerk to one side, and forward on several occasions and thought i was probably falling asleep...this is automatic yoga? My right hand jerks sideways once in a while too. Tingling all through my skull and minor muscle contractions in my arms. Nothing is uncomfortable so i just keep going with mantra and breath. It stops when i end meditation and never persist for more than just a few minutes. Sometimes my sits are deep, and sometimes pretty shallow. My morning sits seem to be shallower than the afternoon ones. Also, i have read that facing north or east is beneficial to one's practice. Is that accurate?
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 08 2013 :  11:20:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by KellyN

Yogaman, I am right there with you about posture struggles i have been integrating sidhasana and finding it quite uncomfortable with the foot under me growing numb on several occasions....quite distracting! To alleviate that, i just went back to my usual cross legged sits. Interesting to read about head jerking movements. I just attributed it to dozing-off- into -yonder -sleep, haha. Seriously, i have had my head jerk to one side, and forward on several occasions and thought i was probably falling asleep...this is automatic yoga? My right hand jerks sideways once in a while too. Tingling all through my skull and minor muscle contractions in my arms. Nothing is uncomfortable so i just keep going with mantra and breath. It stops when i end meditation and never persist for more than just a few minutes. Sometimes my sits are deep, and sometimes pretty shallow. My morning sits seem to be shallower than the afternoon ones. Also, i have read that facing north or east is beneficial to one's practice. Is that accurate?



Initially I had the same issues with siddhasana. You'll find you don't need to actually sit on top of the heel, and if sitting more upright with the hips properly rotated, you'll apply enough pressure. Also, you may try switching legs - my generic cross-legged pose was left on bottom, but right on bottom works better for siddhasana for me. The heel will find the pocket in-between the two sit bones.

For me, automatic yoga isn't a jerking movement, more of this serpentine "gel" of fluid energy that feels like it is exploring inside my body. Initially it was a very strong pulling backwards of the head. It never jerked me, but it think I've read accounts of it being like that.

I have a tough time determining which tingles and pulses of "energy" are just areas not getting enough blood due to poor posture, and more awareness of the pulse/circulation of the blood. The "searching energy" however is very distinct and unique. It took me a few months before much of these experiences started, and my practice was established and regular.

I am just in the past month reaching some deep stillness in the body, which seems to lead the mind there. Morning sits are less deep for me usually too, but not always. Sits come and go in level of stillness in cycles, and from what I've read, this never ends — even long-time meditators have good days and bad days.

As far as the minor twitches, those could be normal? I'm not experienced enough to say. It could also be that you are becoming more aware of these small movements. One thing I am noticing the more I am able to still the body is that we are constantly making dozens of micro-movements every second to maintain balance and position. Once you find that sweet spot, it becomes very obvious. It's like finding the balance when riding a bike with no hands, you just feel it when it's on, and sometimes it wavers — especially if the mind wanders (on the bike and on the cushion!).

I have no idea about the compass thing, sounds a bit fishy to me :)

One thing I do know is that all sits are good sits, because one made the time to sit.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2013 :  1:00:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Been having some superb sits the past few days. The cycling energy within has really become pronounced and more specific. It even has it's own quirks about the path it takes, very interesting. I'm noticing this energy flow throughout the day as well.

I can sink into a quite still mind and body quite quickly now once I settle in to do spinal breathing and meditation. I do wonder if this cycling energy is just scenery/distraction. But it keeps my mind focused, my body still, and I become very non-self-aware about the body, which at least for me is a sign I've reached a level of deep stillness. I find it very easy to focuse on the breath (I do not do mantra as I came to AYP from a breath focus approach). The energy also makes spinal breathing much more direct, it's less about imagining the energy, I can really feel it.

At times I still wonder if this is all in the imagination, but these direct experiences are very powerful, as well as pleasant and enjoyable. I look forward to my sits even more now.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 19 2013 :  02:19:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
So I've had some quite profound shifts in my meditation experiences over the past few days. What used to the the "searching energy" behind what I referred to as "automatic yoga" experiences has now seemed to have developed into this dynamic, fluid inner energy. It's got a life of its own, but it's under conscious control as well. A very loose analogy would be a gyroscope, where the easiest path is to work with the energy.

It definitely favors ascending the spine, but likes to cycle in the head as well. There is no longer any need to imagine the spinal nerve, as this energy seems to favor the exact path. There's even this weird quirk in the path as the energy travels down the from of the body that causes a back and forward movement of the head to ease the energy downwards. It's all very distinct and specific.

It isn't limited to spinal breathing or meditation either, it's eager to roam the inner pathways all day. Just a small bit of awareness towards it is enough. At times it can be quite strong and it's all pleasurable. Like the perfect combo of a massage and the cascading layers of water during a hot shower.

The first few days were the most intense, it seems to have stablised a bit today. I'm assuming this is related to the "ecstatic conductivity" referred to in the AYP lessons, and to kundalini. I've not read up much on anything since the effects began so as not to taint them with any more preconceived notions than I already have.

It was very rewarding to have such a noticeable change in my sits, but I can already see how these effects could be very distracting and how one could get caught up in them for a while. I also found myself a bit dejected when I noticed the reduced intensity of the effects in today's sits.

I've had some great sits since this started, spinal breathing is easily done, and sinking into stillness is quite natural as well during meditation.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 27 2013 :  11:41:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The energy experiences continue, but the intensity has toned down somewhat. I find myself experiencing the spinal energy with any focus of awareness on that area throughout the day. Sometimes cyclical,ump the back and down the front, other times repeated cascades up the back. Sometimes it rolls around and cycles within the head.

Meditations continue to be quite deep and still in both body and mind. The spinal energy flow continues usually. It's become a bit more integrated and less distracting. While overall it remains pleasurable, at times the energy can be a bit much. It definitely feels like I've reached a new stage of the process, and it has renewed my dedication to twice-daily practice.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Dec 31 2013 :  1:20:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The energy experiences have quieted down even more. I actually notice the movement more during non-meditation daily situations than during. When driving especially. My sits have been quite still physically, but much mind-wandering has been going on.

Sambhavi mudra has been improving a bit, becoming more natural. The reduction in intensity of the energy during spinal breathing has made me need to go back to giving more focus to visualizing the path, which adds to the complexity of maintaining mula bandha, sambhavi mudra, diaphragmatic breathing, and tracing the spinal nerve all simultaneously. It can be quite a balancing act.
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jonesboy

USA
594 Posts

Posted - Jan 01 2014 :  12:39:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit jonesboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Yogaman,

Those are some great experiences but I have two questions for you. Have you thought about adding Samyama and more importantly have you noticed positive changes in your daily life since starting this journey?
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Jan 02 2014 :  12:53:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by jonesboy

Yogaman,

Those are some great experiences but I have two questions for you. Have you thought about adding Samyama and more importantly have you noticed positive changes in your daily life since starting this journey?



Samyama I am waiting to add until I have the current practices down. And I think I may extend my asana routine to the full set as my next extension. But I'm open to suggestions. From my understanding Samyama was a practice that involved the three "final" rungs of yoga, some of which I've definitely not reached. Maybe I need to read over the technique again.

Indeed I have seen an overall improvement in my daily life in the past year. The tricky thing is that I've made quite a bit of changes over the past year simultaneously to starting up AYP. Healthier eating, regular exercise, focusing on more ideal relationships, etc. Meditation however has been the one thing I've been most consistent with.

Regardless, I can say that my outlook on life, and my behavior within it has definitely improved. In a way, my life has become a parallel of the still meditative mind: I'm much less attached to results, able to watch/witness the passing of situations and myself acting within them, and in general leaning towards a quieter and deeper approach to friends, family, relationships and socializing.

Sometimes I wonder if any one of these activities is the cause at all, if perhaps instead it's the overall striving to put these healthy practices into effect. My decision, drive and daily effort to do these practices may be the linchpin that instigates the change.

I do enjoy meditation quite a bit, and plan on continuing the practice, but to be honest I can't really pinpoint it as the direct cause of any perceived changes. And sometimes too I feel as if I am just barricading the old lazy, unhealthy me as opposed to enacting true change. I wonder how much of the perceived change is placebo/wishful thinking.

Regardless, I can say this: my life is indeed different than it was before I started. I've gotten a fresh perspective on my life and how I live within it. That in itself has been quite illuminating in many ways.

Thanks for the questions, you unlocked some personal reflection that was missing from this journal.
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jonesboy

USA
594 Posts

Posted - Jan 02 2014 :  4:03:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit jonesboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Yogaman for your very honest and open response.

I only mention Samyama is because it sounds like you do have some inner silence going on. That is all that is required. I will admit it took me awhile to include it in my routine. It took a long time before I could handle it. It is wise to get things stable before adding something new so please don't feel like I am pushing you.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Jan 03 2014 :  10:55:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by jonesboy

Thank you Yogaman for your very honest and open response.

I only mention Samyama is because it sounds like you do have some inner silence going on. That is all that is required. I will admit it took me awhile to include it in my routine. It took a long time before I could handle it. It is wise to get things stable before adding something new so please don't feel like I am pushing you.



The only reason I've not looked into adding it is because I feel like I still need to nail down some of the basics. And expand some as well. The inner silence is intermittent. In fact, as the inner energy have gown more faint, so has experiences of inner silence.

But no, I didn't feel pushed at all. I welcome the advice and suggestion. I'm quite new to all of this and still feel as if I'm fumbling in the dark most of the time :) I'm hoping that by sharing the ongoing process, I may be able to get some pointers along the way and also help others like me who could use the same advice.

I met with a friend who's moved out of town, but visiting family for the holidays. She too was in a similar boat as I, having practiced meditation for some time but never really experiencing any of the "fireworks" that other people seem to have so easily when you're reading up on things online. I'm hoping because of my more flexible and open schedule that I can be a vanguard of sorts for her and other friends in the same mindset. Of course, I still have personal motivations for doing all of this as well.

One thing I've got nailed down at this point is the bhakti. I'm pretty focused on practicing and learning about yoga right now. I've even had to tone it down a bit as I noticed it was taking time away from my business and from other areas of my life. I just tend to go really deep on things once I get into them.
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chinmayo

Finland
67 Posts

Posted - Jan 03 2014 :  10:34:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Yogaman!

Yes, I think it's good to self-pace and not to advance too soon. I, for one, have found out that I have been advancing too much too soon, so I have backed off a bit. I dropped SPB and samyama for the time being, as I didn't think I got them right just yet and began to feel anxiety about it. Now, I had my first full sitting since that and I found the inner silence again that I felt I had "lost" for a while.

I still do the chigong + asanas, padmasana and DM with the mantra enhancement. No fireworks here, although I do feel some increasing lucid activity in the sleep which is sometimes a bit scary as I don't understand it.

Heheh, also guilty of going too deep into stuff sometimes. For the past six months I have been dedicating most of my stuff to spiritual practise and study, while dedicating almost no time at all to other things. But I guess I have come to a point now where I realize that it's not all there is and hopefully I'm now more able to put the stuff I have learnt so far into practise in real life. I guess there are some asperger qualitities and tendencies in me.

Blessed love!

Edited by - chinmayo on Jan 03 2014 11:22:46 PM
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Jan 04 2014 :  10:52:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
@chinmayo I too have spent the bulk of this past year, which was my "get serious" year for meditation (among other things). I've been so interested in this topic and practice for many years that I really immersed myself in all of it once I made the decision to make a real effort. But like you, I've let other areas of my life atrophy a bit. Looking to regain a balance.

I will however say that it's been quite liberating and enjoyable to just "be me" this past year, and dive deep into the things I like to dive deep into. I've spent a good portion of my past decade in self-doubt, looking externally for direction and validation for my interests, choices, decisions and activities. I lived with a lot of "should" thoughts in my mind, and not much acceptance of myself as I am.

As I've confusingly worded it as of late: I've been stopping doing that which is not me.

I've also found that the pairing of Stoic philosophy with my new direction has been quite an interesting addition to the daily experiences outside of meditation. Feels like a natural companion. It helps remind me to temper my interests and keep things in balance.

I too tend to exhibit some Asperger traits at times. It was important for me to be quite disciplined at the outset and I may have been a bit over zealous.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2014 :  10:25:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't tell if the energy experiences have lessened or if I've just become a bit more acclimated to them. Some days however they are quite pronounced, like yesterday. The more I observe these energy sensations, the more they seem to be the "negative space" of the automatic yoga movements. In other words, from one perspective I sense my muscles moving my limbs, from another I feel an "energy" moving within me that results in different postures and movements to enhance and encourage the energy flow. Like two sides of one coin.

Lately I've been watching this video lecture series: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eid6fiAj8WY

While I'm not saying I believe any/all of it, he brings up some interesting concepts on the biological aspect of these techniques and experiences. Some of the things he discusses in regards to the hemispheres of the brain and the amygdala echo my own experiences. Particularly the enhanced sense of smell (which I've been having lately, but could be my continued lack of smoking — 2 years!). But I've also noticed the enhanced vision at times as well. But most particular as of late has been the lessening of not only inner chatter, but external chatter. I find myself less drawn to social media, less attached to the inner dialogue. I notice it, it's not all that much lessened, but I'm identifying with it less and less. And therefore less prone to spread the ideas around. I've been focusing more on doing than "talking about". I've been wondering if this had to do with meditation, and as a result with different areas of the brain being focused on.

I've also started reading the book "The Willpower Instinct", which is quite interesting and discusses the benefits of meditation throughout the book. She specifically points out he power of "coming back to the breath" being key, and a point of confusion for most new meditators believing they have to empty the mind. Reminded me of Yogani's persistent reminders to "gently return to the breath" throughout AYP lessons.

On a side note, a superb book on introverts that I just finished was "Quiet" by Susan Cain. Interesting for extroverts too, but fellow introverts will love the book. You may be an introvert and not know it, I only recently learned the true distinction and it cleared up quite a bit about myself that has been in my hang-up collection throughout my life.

The easiest test for introvert personality is if you need to "recharge your batteries" alone or with others. Introverts are not necessarily anti-social, shy, withdrawn, quiet, or have social anxiety. It's more about being overwhelmed with stimulation (environmental, social), and therefore limiting your exposure to it. It helped me understand myself so much, I thought I'd share in detail here.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Jan 17 2014 :  10:47:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Been having quite profound sits this week. The inner energy has returned in an active way, and a more focused way. My spinal breathing seems to have taken on more focused and directed nature as well. Mula bandha is becoming nearly transparent. Body stillness on meditation is quite instantaneous when I settle in. Blissful, pleasurable energy and sensations.

I've noticed that a sound in my right ear has intensified. I've got tinnitus already. Last year I got what I referred to as a distant machinery hum in the right ear. Lately it sounds louder/"closer". As of a few days ago I now have a specific ringing in my ear that happens in sympathetic vibration. When I talk it vibrates the tone. Not sure if any of this is related to meditation of not. But I've read of sounds in the ear from meditation practice. Just not sure if this is what is meant.
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2014 :  02:12:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Another week of profoundly still and energetic sits. Tonight I had a spontaneous kechari stage 1 experience. In hindsight it's been leading up to it, but since the way it works was not what I had in mind, I wasn't looking to what I'd been noticing as kechari. Also a confirmation that it was a natural occurrence of something "hard wired". Interesting how the biology relaxes to allow it all to take place.

Yesterday I had a first slight experience of the witness. I was a bit stressed out from some work deadlines, and found myself getting clumsy and losing my temper, even to the point of just yelling out loud at nobody. I realized however I was observing myself do this, and was not "attached" or "invested" in the emotions. It was subtle and definitely weird and cool.

I've also noticed myself laughing a lot more out loud at sometimes nothing at all. In fact, just typing that made me do it again!
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Yogaman

USA
295 Posts

Posted - Feb 05 2014 :  01:36:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Forgot to mention in that last entry that I've bumped up the asana routine to the full "starter kit". I had been doing the abbreviated starter kit for a few months prior. Been having slight stirrings of kechari the past few days. I'm not really coaxing it along unless it really starts to go that direction.

Sambhavi mudra tonight felt like it was starting to come into its own. Felt a lot more natural. Mula bandha has pretty much gone on autopilot for a while now.

Current routine is:

Asana starter kit
10 mins spinal breathing
- mula bandha
- sambhavi mudra
- siddhasana
- ujjayi
20 mins deep meditation
5 mins rest

I feel like the routine is starting to really become natural. Bhakti is super strong as of late, but I can get a bit obsessive about things I'm interested in! Been doing a lot of AYP audiobook re-listening on my hikes/walks.
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maheswari

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Posted - Feb 05 2014 :  02:32:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hello Yogaman
may i suggest increasing your rest for 10 min instead of 5
all the best
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