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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Dec 13 2012 : 11:27:50 AM
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Great book and a great film. Very spiritual. |
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kami
USA
921 Posts |
Posted - Dec 13 2012 : 11:33:40 AM
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quote: Originally posted by karl
Great book and a great film. Very spiritual.
Yes!! Fantastic book and the movie's cinematography is phenomenal. My kids loved it too. Was going to reference it in this thread but slipped my mind: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....PIC_ID=12265
Very beautiful unfolding in terms of ahimsa, surrender and expansion.
If you get a chance, do read about Yann Martel and his inspiration for the book.
Love! |
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Swan
India
256 Posts |
Posted - Dec 14 2012 : 01:04:38 AM
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Yes!! Seen the movie and loved it...
Towards the end when the boy says that the tiger has been a nemesis along the journey and at the same time, has been the reason behind the boy staying alive and surviving the 227 day journey – it reminded me the all challenges that life throws towards us, and taught that we better accept and face them, as they come to us only to make us take further step and complete our journey.
And when pi said to the surveyors that – “I know what you want. You want a story that won't surprise you. That will confirm what you already know. That won't make you see higher or further or differently.” I was like – Bravo!! You exposed the mind as what it is, that’s a lesson I will keep with myself.
Moreover it was a visual delight with all those effects Overall, awesome |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Dec 14 2012 : 11:31:19 PM
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Just saw it. Absolutely uplifting and full of liberation. Thanks for posting this, Karl. |
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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 07:30:11 AM
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SPOILERS : Please don't read if you haven't seen the film.!!
Do you think the tiger represents the mind. It was interesting how he wanted to make it a friend when he was younger and his father persuaded him it wasn't a good idea.
He tries isolating himself on the raft, he tries aggression, he tries to command it and in the end he just accepts it. When he does it wanders off by itself never to be seen again. |
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kami
USA
921 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 09:04:21 AM
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quote: Originally posted by karl
SPOILERS : Please don't read if you haven't seen the film.!!
Do you think the tiger represents the mind. It was interesting how he wanted to make it a friend when he was younger and his father persuaded him it wasn't a good idea.
He tries isolating himself on the raft, he tries aggression, he tries to command it and in the end he just accepts it. When he does it wanders off by itself never to be seen again.
MORE SPOILERS!
Yes!! I felt that the tiger represents the ego - no difference in how we try to placate, feed, fight and nurture it.
To me, the most poignant part of the book/film was that point where absolute defeat led to absolute surrender, when he gives up on surviving the ocean or the tiger. Things fall into place thereafter..
The tiger doesn't look back When it is time to get off the boat and leave, it just does. After "all they have been through together"..
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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 12:36:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by kami
quote: Originally posted by karl
SPOILERS : Please don't read if you haven't seen the film.!!
Do you think the tiger represents the mind. It was interesting how he wanted to make it a friend when he was younger and his father persuaded him it wasn't a good idea.
He tries isolating himself on the raft, he tries aggression, he tries to command it and in the end he just accepts it. When he does it wanders off by itself never to be seen again.
MORE SPOILERS!
Yes!! I felt that the tiger represents the ego - no difference in how we try to placate, feed, fight and nurture it.
To me, the most poignant part of the book/film was that point where absolute defeat led to absolute surrender, when he gives up on surviving the ocean or the tiger. Things fall into place thereafter..
The tiger doesn't look back When it is time to get off the boat and leave, it just does. After "all they have been through together"..
Also, after all that fighting he realised the Tiger was never his enemy, simply a survival mechanism and a tormentor. Pi showed complete surrender. As we find in life, you don't always get what you want, only what you need. |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 1:07:41 PM
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Yeah, the Stones man... |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 5:22:26 PM
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I think the tiger represents the primal aspect of man that is still in play. You could call that "mind" or "ego"...but to me, it's helpful to be more descriptive/more precise, so perhaps "primal ego" or "primal mind".
If you remember, Pi actually ends up mastering the tiger...taming him. So, in that sense, it's very much active surrender, not a passive surrender of living in fear of the tiger. Pi claims his own territory and keeps the tiger at bay--and that took lots of work, discipline, and courage. Otherwise, the tiger would have devoured him or made him perish by scaring him away from the food supplies.
In some sense, that's what yoga can accomplish: a mastery of the lower/survival instincts (through the 1st two limbs of yoga: restraints and observances). That's what tantra's about too: using the primal, sexual desire for a higher evolutionary purpose.
His mastery of the will to live is what propelled him into the higher statosphere of spiritual surrender. |
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