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kevincann

USA
335 Posts

Posted - Aug 02 2012 :  03:16:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message

Hi,

If there are people who would like to get together either from this area, or have travel plans,
let me know if you like.

Love,

Kev

Edited by - kevincann on Aug 09 2012 12:40:54 AM

jeff

USA
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Posted - Aug 02 2012 :  10:56:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I am periodically in the Bay area for business. If I can coordinate it when things are set, I would definitely be interested in joining. Always enjoy a good discussion.


Edited by - jeff on Aug 02 2012 10:57:57 PM
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kevincann

USA
335 Posts

Posted - Aug 03 2012 :  4:11:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

This could be informal or formal. If an AYP instructor wished to
coordinate with me, that might be fun.

Love,

Kevin

Edited by - kevincann on Aug 09 2012 12:42:25 AM
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Kirtanman

USA
1651 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2012 :  12:48:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kirtanman's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kevincann


Hi.

I might be inclined to put together a satsang.

As anyone who has read my posts knows, it would not be a strictly
'by the book' sort of thing. On the other hand, I am enthusiastic
about the AYP set of practices --- and others.

My personal expertise is:

Kundalini stages 1,2,3 (would answer many questions;
but would not mentor in guided awakening)
Internal alchemy (including nectar cycle, descent of the
divine child, integration with wholeness)
Sexual Continence (basic to Tantra)
Esoteric cosmology (smashing through apparent duality)
The path of the Bhakti (supercharging with self-pacing)

This would be a sharing session, and I would not be the only
person presenting hopefully. My expertise affects most AYP
practices, but I am not an AYP instructor as you know.

It must also be put out there, that direct experience is my
'authority' and only coincidentally does what I share mesh
well with some major traditions such as Kashmir Shaivism.

Just putting this out there, to see if there is interest.

Love,

Kev




Hi Kevin,

I have family in that area (I'm from there originally - Silicon Valley area) and visit infrequently.

I have no idea when I might be out there next, but if it all syncs up at the right times - sure, that would be great.

A few of us who are AYPers have gotten together before and after retreats, and a couple of other times, and it's always awesome.

Our get togethers are very casual, though -- not any kind of a formal satsang, at all. Having experienced this "casual get together" setting a few times now, I would say it's likely a better format for true and meaningful communication than a more formal satsang would be.

There seems to be a lot of benefit to the free flow of conversation between friends, and to not setting up any illusory sense of someone being in a better position to teach than anyone else.

My two cents, for what it's worth.

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kevincann

USA
335 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2012 :  2:39:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Doug,

Some folks want a cow instead of just drinking milk.

I don't even want to be a cow (the mental image that statement evoked is
semi-priceless.. but ugh*)

However some coordination might be beneficial.

I'm not averse to dragging out Bessy, if that promotes
wholesome milk drinking.

There is nothing I like better than shooting the sh*t with
family, that's the part I want.

Love,

Kevin
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Kirtanman

USA
1651 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2012 :  8:30:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kirtanman's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kevincann

Doug,

Some folks want a cow instead of just drinking milk.

I don't even want to be a cow (the mental image that statement evoked is
semi-priceless.. but ugh*)

However some coordination might be beneficial.

I'm not averse to dragging out Bessy, if that promotes
wholesome milk drinking.

There is nothing I like better than shooting the sh*t with
family, that's the part I want.

Love,

Kevin



Hi Kevin,

My point was just that an informal dynamic can work well, too, based on experience.

In the gatherings I've participated in, there have been enough people familiar with core AYP practices, that having an AYP instructor wasn't an issue.

If, for whatever reason, that wasn't the case with the satsang you're suggesting, I agree that having someone who is familiar with core AYP practices, per your previous posts, would be good (i.e. if AYP is going to be discussed, it's good to have someone who can articulate and confirm AYP teachings accurately).

And "informal" doesn't mean anarchy -- it just means less formal than a lot of what are called satsangs, these days (which are, arguably, less formal than traditional satsangs).

Even AYP retreats are like that (structured, but informal in tone) - the retreat leaders usually speak more as friends and co-practitioners than as teachers - and it works well, as many retreat attendees have confirmed.

I don't see this as a "cow vs. milk" dynamic -- I'm just speaking of an environment where "getting the cow" might happen more easily.



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machart

USA
342 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2012 :  9:30:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kirtanman


I don't see this as a "cow vs. milk" dynamic -- I'm just speaking of an environment where "getting the cow" might happen more easily.







OK...so my understanding is that there will be steak served at this party...
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kevincann

USA
335 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2012 :  10:38:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by machart

quote:
Originally posted by Kirtanman


I don't see this as a "cow vs. milk" dynamic -- I'm just speaking of an environment where "getting the cow" might happen more easily.







OK...so my understanding is that there will be steak served at this party...



Bessy is more of a lover than a feed the world type

Being a feed the world type is very unnerving for a cow

Love,

Kev
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Shanti

USA
4854 Posts

Posted - Aug 09 2012 :  08:17:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shanti's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by machart

quote:
Originally posted by Kirtanman


I don't see this as a "cow vs. milk" dynamic -- I'm just speaking of an environment where "getting the cow" might happen more easily.







OK...so my understanding is that there will be steak served at this party...


If you want the cow and it's milk, then you cant have steak... wouldn't it then be a case of having your cake and eating it too.
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maheswari

Lebanon
2520 Posts

Posted - Aug 09 2012 :  08:37:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
did we turn into a food forum?
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