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 Posted - Jul 07 2005 : 5:43:51 PM
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517 From: "yogagal60510" <loba@aol.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:43pm
Subject: number of hours of daily meditation yogagal60510
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I have read with interest the questions and answers about how many
hours of day is "required" or "sufficient" for meditation. All I
will say is....release from the effort. Being concerned about
meditating the "right" way or a certain number of hours creates way
too much chitta. Remember that yoga chitta vritta nirodah. Relax,
release, and breath. We all have way too many things going on in our
daily lives to worry about whether one is meditating the "right" way
or whether we meditated for 10 minutes one day or 30 minutes the next
or whether we are breathing correctly. Just let it flow, because
every day will be different. My meditative experiences are different
every day. I used to beat myself up if I did not meditate daily
until I asked myself...why? I know people who meditate daily, and
their lives are a mess; others, who meditate when they can but try to
live the yamas and niyamas daily, are as serene as a golden pond. Go
figure.
Remember that our daily lives can be a meditation: eating, walking,
preparing food, washing the dog. Release, relax, and breath.
om mani padme hum
linda
520 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:22pm
Subject: Re: number of hours of daily meditation jim_and_his_...
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AYP is a method, and, as with most methods, it has a framework. It's not the only good
method/framework, nor is a method/framework necessarily required to make spiritual
progress. AYP is just one path - which the people you're speaking to are traveling (that's
why we're here).
If working without structure is best for you, that's wonderful. But those who do aim to
follow a framework aren't less yogic. Structure is no less yogic than a "follow your bliss"
approach. There are many paths to the same result.
I don't see a lot of angst or judgement here about this issue; we're sharing thoughts and
experiences, and the discussion has been so positive that I haven't detected even a
picocalorie of argumentative heat. Your posting, by contrast, has a remonstrative and
judgemental tone toward those whose practice is different than yours (which seems jarring
in a forum dedicated to discussing that very practice).
If you are working on AYP (which is quite structured) and have questions or comments -
even contrary ones - by all means, express them. But we've achieved a tolerant tone here
even when making passionate points, and I'd urge you to consider a less injunctive tone.
And to bear in mind that a free, unrigid framework is still an framework...and can even be
a quite rigid one.
I don't say any of this in anger, and I apologize if it comes off that way. I wish you only the
very best with your practice (and I fully realize you intend no less for any of us!). :)
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "yogagal60510" <loba@a...> wrote:
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> I have read with interest the questions and answers about how many
> hours of day is "required" or "sufficient" for meditation. All I
> will say is....release from the effort. Being concerned about
> meditating the "right" way or a certain number of hours creates way
> too much chitta. Remember that yoga chitta vritta nirodah. Relax,
> release, and breath. We all have way too many things going on in our
> daily lives to worry about whether one is meditating the "right" way
> or whether we meditated for 10 minutes one day or 30 minutes the next
> or whether we are breathing correctly. Just let it flow, because
> every day will be different. My meditative experiences are different
> every day. I used to beat myself up if I did not meditate daily
> until I asked myself...why? I know people who meditate daily, and
> their lives are a mess; others, who meditate when they can but try to
> live the yamas and niyamas daily, are as serene as a golden pond. Go
> figure.
>
> Remember that our daily lives can be a meditation: eating, walking,
> preparing food, washing the dog. Release, relax, and breath.
>
> om mani padme hum
> linda
523 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:01pm
Subject: Re: number of hours of daily meditation vic
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Yogagal, I see your response as a distinctly feminie viewpoint and adds balance to the more male way of struggle and regimentaion. It is all a balance I think. I liek to have a minimum for myself every day that I don't ever skp, then I have the usual, and if tehre is a time when there is special inspiration then I do more. The important thing to remember with these practices is the long haul, not so much ones progress as measured in days or weeks. Having it as a thread running through life is the important part, not "achieving" enlightenment. I practice, if enlightenment comes I welcome it, if not I practice........
yogagal60510 <loba@aol.com> wrote:
I have read with interest the questions and answers about how many
hours of day is "required" or "sufficient" for meditation. All I
will say is....release from the effort. Being concerned about
meditating the "right" way or a certain number of hours creates way
too much chitta. Remember that yoga chitta vritta nirodah. Relax,
release, and breath. We all have way too many things going on in our
daily lives to worry about whether one is meditating the "right" way
or whether we meditated for 10 minutes one day or 30 minutes the next
or whether we are breathing correctly. Just let it flow, because
every day will be different. My meditative experiences are different
every day. I used to beat myself up if I did not meditate daily
until I asked myself...why? I know people who meditate daily, and
their lives are a mess; others, who meditate when they can but try to
live the yamas and niyamas daily, are as serene as a golden pond. Go
figure.
Remember that our daily lives can be a meditation: eating, walking,
preparing food, washing the dog. Release, relax, and breath.
om mani padme hum
linda
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