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Victor
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 Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 01:45:51 AM
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I just saw a trailer for this movie and have got to check it out. It is the story of an Indian American film maker who impersonates a guru and the public buys it. check out the link
http://www.kumaremovie.com/ |
Edited by - Victor on Jun 02 2012 02:18:50 AM |
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Ananda
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 02:12:25 AM
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Thanks victor |
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woosa
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 06:51:55 AM
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Ha Victor you beat me to it! Was just going to post about it.
Where does he teach? I might join up.  |
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AYPforum
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 07:48:25 AM
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 08:28:19 AM
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Good trailer - it's funny, and true? even better.
It is quite interesting because he is impersonating a guru, and yet students say he helped them so much.
I am sure the underlying motive is for him to prove that "real" gurus are fake also.
But at the same time he is fooling himself because he is helping people.
What he is really proving is the help comes from within the student, not from the guru. The guru just provides the support and environment for the inner help to come out.
Psychologists know that the most helpful aspect of talk therapy is just listening and not judging.
So Kumare is not really "impersonating" a guru; he is being one!
This confirms a reason for the AYP non-bashing policy. Anyone can help others. It's not because you are special.
It also confirms Yogani's wish for not being put on a pedestal.
Having said that, there is something that makes people exceptional: putting hundreds of hours of consistent effort into something like AYP. That is what makes Yogani admirable, and the same thing works for our practices. |
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 3:35:01 PM
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| Exactly! the phrase "the guru is in you" could be perfectly applied to Kumare. I am very much looking forward to this movie. He seems good hearted, not trying to make people look stupid and he grew up in a religious hindu home and studied comparative religion and knew sankrit, had the look, could talk the talk. Very interesting if you ask me.. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 4:35:17 PM
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The more I think about this, the more I think this guy is and evil criminal. Hopefully none of his students are in the film, or he is setting himself up to be broke and live in jail. But even if they are all actors in the movie, his real students could sue him for fraud and slander. It would be obvious they are represented in the movie.
He has taken people in need of help, probably took money from them, helped them, then withdrew help and support and made them look like fools in front of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if one of his students became suicidal, and he would be totally at fault.
Besides fraud and slander, he has used a position of trust to take advantage of people, and all three of those crimes carry a heavy penalty in the country. The film would serve as documentation of his crimes.
So hopefully, the story is not true at all, and the film is all actors and fictional characters, and then it might be funny. |
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 5:32:57 PM
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| From what I understand none of it is scripted and his students were told that they were being filmed for a documentary on him. Kind of Borat style. He does seem to have taken great pains to be respectful and not abusive to his students and to give teachings that he genuinely believed to be true (the guru is in you...)so lets see the movie and then continue this discussion. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jun 02 2012 : 5:41:37 PM
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Victor
USA
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stevenbhow
Japan
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Posted - Jun 03 2012 : 01:31:29 AM
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| I saw the trailer for this the other day. It looks interesting. |
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Ananda
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Posted - Jun 03 2012 : 03:22:05 AM
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| There is a story in the sufi tradition... In which a suffi kotb is asked whom will you choose to take up your responsibility as a mourabi after you leave. He replies, that man who is studying with that false sheikh. Yes, I guess it all boils down to the student. The outer is just a mirror for the inner. |
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 03 2012 : 06:49:39 AM
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hmmm this movie might be very good or a very bad publicity for yoga...but it is definitely not coming to movies in lebanon because the audience of such movies is very small...
ananda what is kotb and mourabi in english....even i dont know those arabic words! |
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Ananda
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Posted - Jun 03 2012 : 12:42:45 PM
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| a kotb is something similar to a patriarch or the pope... Mourabi is similar to a teacher who takes care of ur upbringing... salam |
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KechariConfusion
USA
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Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 1:25:36 PM
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| there are no authentic Hindu gurus. All pretend to have met Babaji in the himalayas and base their lineage on that. |
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Jul 25 2012 : 3:25:30 PM
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My guess is that the Himalayas are full of "Babaji's" ;)
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Sudeep
India
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Posted - Jul 31 2012 : 05:47:22 AM
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Originally posted by KechariConfusion
there are no authentic Hindu gurus. All pretend to have met Babaji in the himalayas and base their lineage on that.
What authenticity you look for while dealing with Gurus ? Teacher will come when the student is ready. :) World is never without living Guru. It depends on our soul jorney when we encounter real Guru. |
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Yonatan
Israel
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Posted - Nov 15 2012 : 8:08:12 PM
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I just saw this documentary. It is very nice. I felt a heartache from seeing those people who actually needed help and he was acting. But still he somehow did help them. I liked the idea that his teaching was that the "Guru is in you". That was his reason for going on this journey and continueing with it till the end. He did show that anyone has great wisdom inside if only they choose to embrace their inner guru.
I really liked this film, fun watching, totally recommended especially for us who reveal the inner guru. |
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new movie "Kumare"
