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yuki
Indonesia
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 Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 07:47:04 AM
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My kundalini started to awaken spontaneously in 2005. From 2005 to 2008 I've suffered changeable moods (anxiety, depression, sadness , irritation, joy) and skin problems too. From 2009 to 2010 I've suffered digestive and heart problems too. From 2010 to 2011 I've started to suffer muscle pains, hot and cold sensations, headaches, costant fatigue, feeling a costant electric energy that runs trough my body (from feet to head) with an ondulating/zigzag movement (in the spine area) and spontaneous orgasms.In the last days I feel the energy at my 1 and 2 chackras very strong. I'm sexually aroused all the day. yesterday I was lying in my bed tryin to let the energy flow and my body started to shaken (especially the pelvic area) It seemed to have a sexual intercourse with a ghost. I'm frightened.  Is this phenomenon normal during a kundalini process?? I need help  I'm in great depression. I dont know what to do.
PS. I'm a perfect ignorant about meditation/yoga practices. |
Edited by - AYPforum on Jun 10 2012 5:13:33 PM |
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 09:49:46 AM
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Hi Yuki,
Have you got all this checked out by a doctor?
If not, get a physical done to rule out any medical problems.
An awakened kundalini, that is not controlled and directed with practices can cause a lot of discomforts.
So it will be a great idea to start some form of structured practice. Many here had active and out of control kundalini when they started. Getting into a structured practice helped.
If you would like to try AYP, read from here: http://www.aypsite.org/10.html
Then start with deep meditation: http://www.aypsite.org/13.html
Let us know how it goes.
Also, do things that are grounding. Eat heavier food, walk, exercise, dig in a garden, go out with friends, do lots of mindless physical activity. Keep your mind away from the energy and the symptoms. The more we focus on this, the more intensity we give it.
I hope some of this helps.
Wish you all the best. 
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Holy
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Posted - Aug 28 2011 : 2:51:44 PM
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My friend,
let happen what happens. Also the worry and fear. The unconscious and conscious. Become total in this. Continuity of totality. Totality includes time, space, everything and nothing.
This is the other blissful and joyful option next to shanti's solution.
Otherwise, don't complain for another 6 years of ignorance. |
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manigma
India
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 12:56:09 AM
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A lot of people come to this site explaining such symptoms. Is there a particular lesson for grounding/reducing overload (apart from self pacing) by Yogani? I suggest it should be mentioned under the Key Lessons on the left. Methods of grounding, overload/kundalini symptoms, precautions etc.
Then we can direct the people to that page.
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Ananda
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 03:21:24 AM
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Hi Manigma,
obviously you haven't checked all too well. On the left of the screen, there are the lessons on kundalini assistance and Sensitivities issues... |
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manigma
India
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 04:09:13 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ananda
Hi Manigma,
obviously you haven't checked all too well. On the left of the screen, there are the lessons on kundalini assistance and Sensitivities issues...
Yes, that's the one, thanks Ananda.
Yuki
http://www.aypsite.org/69.html
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yuki
Indonesia
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 06:38:43 AM
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Thank you guys. The grounding strategies dont give me a great help. My k energy runs trough my body like a river in flood and i'm not able to live a normal life anymore. I've lost the control over my body.I cant work or study (I've lost a lot of weight too) or have a sentimental relationship. It amplifies everything (emotions, physical sensations...) and I cant tolerate crowded places, lound sounds, tv programs with negative energies etc.. I spent the last three years visiting dictors and specialists and I spent lots of money too uselessly. There's nothing wrong with my health. They and my family believe I have a kind of depression. It's frustrating. Hope these symptoms will pass one day. The k process cant last forever. Right?  |
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Ananda
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 06:55:46 AM
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Dear Yuki,
please read lesson 69. A lot of us here have been where you're at right now and the tips included in lesson 69 have helped us all in regaining our stability. Especially the practice of spinal breathing...
Shanti have given you great advise... For your own good sake please take it, also drop any kind of other practices or reading spiritual material or being around other spiritual people for a while... And most importantly keep busy and stop playing around with the energies inside. Move your attention away from them.
By using spinal breathing pranayama and deep meditation, like most cases we have dealt with here in AYP including my own things will start stabilizing in no time. At least give the whole thing a try for three day.
Hope you get better soon!
Love,
Ananda |
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bewell
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Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 07:07:37 AM
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Yes, Yuki, these symptoms will pass. In the course of the last 15 years (I'm 50), I have had many of the symptoms you describe including the current ones you are noticing: shaking pelvis, spontaneous orgasms, like making love to a ghost, fear/terror, heightened and prolonged sexual arousal. I have never had skin irritation. Without going to many medical professionals, I was able to discern, like you, that my problems are not the sort that they usually deal with. My physical health is better than the others in my family of origin. But yes, you are right to ask if these symptoms will pass, and right to risk trusting that they will pass. In my case, however, on the other side of these symptoms, I have had to renegotiate my relationship with career and marriage so that what I do is authentic for me and my process. In the social dimension of our process, we are shaking off the inauthentic, and preparing for a more truthful way of relating to our bodies and our loves.
I have found AYP practices very helpful. Time for my morning sit
Bewell |
Edited by - bewell on Aug 29 2011 07:12:15 AM |
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manigma
India
1065 Posts |
Posted - Aug 29 2011 : 07:12:34 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by yuki
The grounding strategies dont give me a great help. My k energy runs trough my body like a river in flood and i'm not able to live a normal life anymore. I've lost the control over my body.
You need some serious grounding mate. Try this home made grounding technique for a quick releif:
Let your forehead (third eye) or crown touch the floor. Touch your head/forehead on the ground. Like this:
http://dangitbill.files.wordpress.c.../psalm95.jpg
http://cdn.elev8.com/files//2009/06...ing-down.jpg
Pray and request Mother Earth to absorb the excessive Kundalini energy and ground/absorb it.
You might have to do it a few times and for a few days.
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yuki
Indonesia
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Posted - Aug 31 2011 : 06:32:57 AM
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Thank you for all your advices. I'll try to follow them.
My physical activity is moderate.I'm weak now because I've lost lots of weight in the last year.
I eat small food quantities many times during the day. I can't eat havier. I feel bad after. My digestion is very slow. I'm taking vitamins and mineral supplements. I drink a lot of water too.
What is the grounding food? I've read about meat and vegetables.. Great quantities of carbs, sugar, salt, diary products, chocolate are not good in a K diet. Is it true??
I dont know spinal breathing...anyway when I have a "Kundalini crisis" I relax and breathe in a gentle way.
When you feel a great sexual arousal and spontaneous orgasms, what is the best thing to do?? Feel the energy, go with it and let it flow or not? Is the "loving self-help" grounding or not??
Has anybody felt a kind of fresh air-breeze on the hands and on the forehead during k awakening? What does it mean??
Bewell, your experience give me hope for the future.
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bewell
1275 Posts |
Posted - Sep 01 2011 : 09:09:19 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by yuki
When you feel a great sexual arousal and spontaneous orgasms, what is the best thing to do?? Feel the energy, go with it and let it flow or not? Is the "loving self-help" grounding or not??
Enjoy the ride. "Loving self-help" (which I presume means masturbation to ejaculation) is ok too. As I recall, Yogani recommends about once every week or two weeks or four weeks. If it feels grounding to you, I guess it is.
Long-term, the best progress in integrating the K energies will happen with a daily meditation and pranayama practice. I speak from experience. In my opinion, best thing we have to offer here on the support forum is a pointer to the AYP lessons on daily practice.
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yuki
Indonesia
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Posted - Sep 04 2011 : 08:42:19 AM
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The expression is not mine. It's from a web article about kundalini grounding strategies. I've found it "strange" as advice...Gopi Krishna in his books suggests to moderate the sexual activity and speaks about chastity.
Bewell, how many years do you feel the current in your body and the sexual heat? I've started to feel them few months ago. I have to prepare myself to suffer them for the next 10-15 years??!!
I've read the AYP gude...I've tried to do the spinal breathing..I've eaten heavier...I've done physical exercise.. I've distracted myself, reading, watching tv, stay and play with my nephews...All these things give me no relief...the energy is always there...it becomes more stronger..sometimes I feel paralysed from it.
Ps I've dreamt a snake last night! |
Edited by - yuki on Sep 07 2011 11:40:06 AM |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Sep 04 2011 : 12:01:06 PM
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"Gopi Krishna in his books suggests to moderate the sexual activity and speaks about chastity. "
No, this will make it worse. Kundalini energy is the same as sexual energy, so don't save your sexual energy as it will contribute to the kundalini.
You need to do more physical activity, and build up your physical body with some exercise that will build muscle as it gets harder. You can lift weights, or I prefer body weight exercises without weights. You can swim laps if there is an opportunity.
Walk barefoot for grounding, and someone even suggested the extreme grounding practice of digging a hole, and put your feet in it.
These things strengthen your connection to the body and the earth. |
Edited by - Etherfish on Sep 04 2011 12:12:54 PM |
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bewell
1275 Posts |
Posted - Sep 05 2011 : 7:42:13 PM
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| When I was in my spontaneous shaking and undulating phase of yoga, I enjoyed it. I thought it might last the rest of my life, and I was ok with that. It only lasted about a year in that form, and during that year, over time it became more slow and more general in my whole body. During that time I was trying to avoid ejaculation, and indeed did avoid it for long periods, usually about a month. Like Etherfish said, the shaking/undulating was fueled by sexual energy moving upward and into my whole body. I wanted it to flow that way. |
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yuki
Indonesia
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Posted - Sep 07 2011 : 11:41:52 AM
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Thank you Etherfish for your tips.
Thank you Bewell for telling me your experience.
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Scorpio1987uk
Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:34:07 PM
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You dont know how lucky you are, you have the Goddess herself to provide you pleasure. Play with her, I loved your description "having sex with a Ghost". I had the same experience, the first few times it can feel like rape if you are not receptive. But after a while you will grow to love her/him.
After a while the energy will become more intimate in a diffrent kind of way. The sexual energy will be more controlable, you can turn her on and off at will. There will always be a vibration constasntly, the trick is to move her around somewhere where it comfortable (When I am outside or with other people I move her to my legs and feet and when I sleep I tell her she is allowed to go anywhere she wants.)
You have to treat her like a lover, obviously when you first meet there will be a period of heavy passion and sexual feelings (She loves you after all.) Then the relationship settles down and gets a bit quiet, although it never loses its intimacy unlike a marriage ^^ |
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Sanjeev
India
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Posted - Oct 25 2011 : 02:46:16 AM
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Originally posted by Scorpio1987uk
.... unlike a marriage ^^
True words.
Fortunately I'm single else it would have been very difficult to explain to my partner about all those weird movements I do in my sleep.
I've had some moments of shaking and (almost violent) thrusts resembling the 'act'. It used to wake me up in night with burning hot pain in feet and shakes, as if I'm tied to an electric chair. Its gone now after stopping all practices, but I still get some unconscious love making movements in the early morning hours.
I also had an experience of someone embracing me in sleep. It felt as real as 'real'. I was spooked thinking its an entity, but I guess the form was made up by my half asleep mind to account for the sensations. (I'd like to believe so anyway  )
Yuki cannot control it, its unfortunate, but I'm sure this will go away soon. We have many people in India here, who spontaneously go into a shaking mode, and common people do call it a possession by the goddess (although they are unaware of kundalini). In olden days they used to worship such a person and offer gifts, as they were able to predict future or heal diseases in this state. Nowadays, they get sent to mental hospitals.
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Scorpio1987uk
Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
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Posted - Oct 25 2011 : 11:07:29 AM
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Well, it is sad reality that people get diagnosed with mental problems because of Kundalini, I was diagnosed with Psychosis, Schizophrenia etc and spent 3 years on medication which is a shame. I would consider it the opposite of a mental disability as ultimately it makes you aware of what you think at all times since the Kundalini can read your thoughts.
Really there is nothing to worry about, after a while it really starts to calm down and actually becomes more enjoyable, I also have a girlfriend and I find Kundalini really improves my relationship since I am highly sexual and sometimes my girlfriend can't have sex due to her being on her period, bad moods, etc. This way there is always some kind of stimulation ^^.
I actually managed to tell my girlfriend about Kundalini even though she does not know anything about it, she was very understanding and helpful, maybe it would be a good idea to tell your woman also, but I find its best to tell her only the basics and don't go into much detail.
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_Yogi_
USA
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Posted - Nov 17 2011 : 08:12:10 AM
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"An awakened kundalini, that is not controlled and directed with practices can cause a lot of discomforts. " Shanti
Very true you need to learn to channel the energy. After my kundalini awakening I assumed it went away but then years later I had constant muscle spasms which Im positive now that the energy was telling me to channel and focus the energy. You must do this or you will continue to suffer, trust me channeling it is a lot of fun. I still get muscle spasms sometimes and its when Im being lazy and not paying attention to the energy or not paying enough attention after I released so much. When I get muscle spasms I just give my self a few orgasms through meditation and it clears it right up. ;) |
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nirmal
Germany
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Posted - Nov 20 2011 : 05:11:07 AM
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Hi yuki,
From your symptoms it indeed looks like the kundalini is awakening, but at the same time,it looks like you are (to me),having a spiritual emergency, and to have a consult privately with Yogani or Guru to help guide you through this rocky time is called for.I'm sad that you have been suffering with all of this for so long. It doesnt have to be that way.The advice given here is very important, too.
I don't want to alarm you; this "emergency" type does happen. It happened to me in 2004 and I went through hell because of it.
much love to you,
nirmal
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GangaShiva
USA
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Posted - Dec 04 2011 : 10:01:14 AM
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It definitely sounds like kundalini. The energy will eventually transform into an ecstatic whole body flow which happened in me after two years of purification. Definitely having a meditation practice and keeping the company of other aspirants who are going through the same process helps. Dont be scared of the energetic symptoms, they are transient
Peace |
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