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Posted - Jul 08 2005 :  1:16:10 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Message
1226 From: "Richard" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri Jul 8, 2005 7:35am
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Hello everyone

I would be interested to hear from those of us who have added Yoni
Mudra to our practices.

How easy do you find it

Do you find that it has deepened your meditation

I have been doing it for a few weeks now and although still a bit lumpy
its coming together and my med deepened conciderably

Blessings R.C.

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Posted - Jul 09 2005 :  6:53:30 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply

Hello Richard,

I learned Yoni Mudra years ago and I got some benefit out of it,
but since I came to AYP I have gotten more out of it and have come
to appreciate the quality of Yogani's instructions: the Yoni Mudra
I learned originally was deficient in a critical component -- I was
not instructed to keep the epiglottis open -- this is quite
important because when the epiglottis is kept open, the light
pressure from the held breath invigorates the whole sinus region and
improves the effect of the mudra.

> How easy do you find it

No problem when I am used to it. Are you doing the full yoni-
mudra+kumbhak + uddiyana + mulabandha + chin-lock? It can be hard
to add all the components at once, so you can start with some of
them and then add the rest one by one over the period of weeks.

> Do you find that it has deepened your meditation

Yes, it does deepen my meditation. Something very powerful can
happen with this mudra when it matures.

Blessings,

-D

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Posted - Jul 10 2005 :  04:56:02 AM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello David
Thanks for your reply. At first I had a lot of difficulty with the
pressure of breath as I think I have quite a large lung capability,
now I have learned that you can block the breath to some extent with
the chest while still letting enough through by holding the
epiglottis open to invigorate the sinuses. I am having some
difficulty adding the the other parts of the practice at the moment
as they increase pressure but hopefully it will all come together in
time.

Sometimes I get all the bells and whistles flashing lights etc but I
am not sure if this is being caused by pressure on the optic nerve.

Blessings R.C.
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Posted - Jul 10 2005 :  2:14:45 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" > Hello David
> Thanks for your reply. At first I had a lot of difficulty with the
> pressure of breath as I think I have quite a large lung capability,
> now I have learned that you can block the breath to some extent with
> the chest while still letting enough through by holding the

Hello Richard,
if you are having 'problems with the pressure of breath' watch out to
see if you are over-inhaling. A 'full' inbreath is not meant
literally in the sense that you take in as much as you possibly
can. 'Full' is still a relative term here, not an absolute one. The
breath should still be quite natural, but full (relatively). Think
about it --- we never take in a strictly full breath spontaneously.
If you have too much pressure, consider if you need to breath in a
little less.

> Sometimes I get all the bells and whistles flashing lights etc but I
> am not sure if this is being caused by pressure on the optic nerve.

The pressure on the optic nerve (or rather retina, I think) does
cause some flashing or glowing light. Traditionally this is looked on
as the 'light of God'. We can rush in there with our science
knowledge and say that it is 'just' nervous activity, not the 'light
of God'. But what part of our nervous activity is not the 'light of
God'? It's all the light of God. So looking on it as a sacred light
can be helpful in context. From an advaita point of view, we'll
never see anything anywhere that isn't the energy of God. Same with
the 'sounds' that the nervous system makes, which can be listened to
as the sound of God.

So here's a suggestion to people: if someone does see some flashing
light, let them 'pretend' it is the Light of God, which it is, even
if it *is* caused by the pressure on their nerve. No harm 'pretending' that
something that is true, is true if you need to. Hopefully in the
long run, it might help you *stop* pretending that any of the other light you
have ever seen is not the Light of God. :)

Blessings,

-David


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Posted - Jul 12 2005 :  8:06:38 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
From: meg
Date: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:37 pm
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I just got back from a 4-day solo retreat, during which I added Yoni Mudra
Kumbhaka to my meditation practice. It was awkward the first few times, but
surprisingly easy after a short while. The first thing I got out of it was
a bloody nose. The second and more pleasant experience was a deepening
awareness of the sushumna as it exits my body at the third eye. Until now
I9ve been vaguely aware of a tunnel effect at this spot, but this practice
seems to accentuate the tunnel effect, as well as some peculiar lights
(which looked more like a starry sky than flashing lights). This is an
intense addition to my practice, so I9m going to hang out here for a while
before moving on in the lessons.

Thanks for bringing up this subject - it9s very timely for me.


meg


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Posted - Jul 13 2005 :  7:23:23 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
From: "Melissa" <mm7810@cox.net>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:37 pm
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Hello Richard -

I too have recently added yoni mudra, and I too am a tad clunky at
times. It seems to have helped in energy movement though, but a
strange thing is happening that maybe someone else will
recognize????? It is not bothersome, but after each exhalation
sending the energy back down, I reflexly yawn. Every darn time!
No, I am not tired or sleepy either. It [one single yawn] just
happens each time. Wassup with that? Anyone know?

Melissa

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Posted - Jul 14 2005 :  8:44:32 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you melissa, Meg, David for your replies,

Melissa I too have had the yawn thing but I have had it during spinal
breathing I have no Idea what the cause is, I haven't given it much
thought but perhaps its one that Yogani could answer.

Blessibgs R.C.
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Posted - Jul 14 2005 :  8:45:11 PM  Show Profile  Get a Link to this Reply
From: "Dave Moore" <riptiz@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:45 pm
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Hi,
The yawning is only a sign of the energy movement , much like the
popping you may get in your neck.
L&L
dave

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