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qspadone
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 Posted - Dec 05 2024 : 3:35:50 PM
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Hi Christi, hi all,
Here's a little update: I still haven't been able to find any sort of stability, at all.
I've decided to stop everything again for the time being. I have overloaded energetically, I believe. Since I've stopped, I can't stop frowning as I go into my day. When I attempt to stop the frowning, I'm immediately overwhelmed with energetic discomfort and overwhelming thoughts.
I'm wondering if this is some kind of third eye purification happening.
It sometimes moves upwards from the point between the eyebrows and makes my eyebrows raise. And it even sometimes moves to the sides of my head, near the top/back of the ears. I'm wondering if this is related to the crown chakra, or other energetic pathways being cleared up.
Could spinal breathing help? or deep meditation? But if this is an overload (or purification? -- I'm confused) symptom due to those practices, wouldn't they amplify the problem? I thought that energetic overload could be lessened by the rise of inner silence cultivated through deep meditation. But I've tried so many ways to meditate over the last 10 months and haven't found much stability. Whenever I think I've got it finally, there comes something which makes me doubt and I'm back to square one.
At the same time, my body must be in the process of relaxing, because I've been stretching naturally quite a few times today!
But the tension in between my eyebrows is seriously worrying me. But it's the only thing which seems to keep me grounded.
Sometimes I actually wonder if i'm unconsciously favoring it rather than allowing something to happen, and I wonder if it's ever going to stop.
I'm scared that this is actually going to worsen the energetic overload, and this fear compells me to attempt more spiritual practices.
Any guidance much appreciated. |
Edited by - qspadone on Dec 05 2024 4:20:07 PM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Dec 05 2024 : 4:36:44 PM
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Hi qspadone,
Sorry to hear you are still having difficulties. Your symptoms do sound like some of those associated with the ajna chakra purifying and opening and also possibly with the crown chakra as well. Energetic overload is the same as purification, except that the symptoms of energetic overload are uncomfortable and/ or painful. With the purification of the ajna chakra, frowning is one response of the body to strong purification taking place. Stretching the body can help with overload symptoms if done in the right way. If you do it in the right way, you will feel the stretching reducing any pain, rather than increasing it.
It is not the case that symptoms of energetic overload are lessened by the rise of inner silence. In fact, it is often the opposite. Inner silence can cause prana to rise up in the body to meet it, which can increase symptoms of energetic overload if the subtle nervous system is not ready for that. This is why increasing meditation time is not a recommended response to experiencing energetic overload.
With Spinal Breathing Pranayama, it is different as Spinal Breathing can have a balancing effect on the subtle body, balancing prana out between the higher and lower centres. So, sometimes people can find some relief by adding Spinal Breathing to their practice if they are not using it already. However, this does not always work, so if someone were to try this, they should be ready to cut back on all practices if necessary.
My advice to anyone experiencing energetic overload is to reduce spiritual practices downwards. Start by cutting out the last practice you added. If this does not resolve the issue, then cut out the one before that and so on until you find a comfortable level. In your case, stopping all practices for a while sounds wise. Remember that all practices includes things like reading spiritual books, watching spiritually uplifting videos or films, and stopping any tantric sexual practices.
Inner purification does not last forever, which means that symptoms of energetic overload also do not last forever. Generally, the better-able someone is to self-pace their practices effectively and the better they are at introducing grounding practices into their life, the sooner they recover.
This lesson contains instructions on self-pacing and grounding.
This video that I recorded for YouTube also contains those same instructions.
And this video talks more about what can happen if the crown chakra is opening too early.
Lastly, there is a free Self-Pacing and Grounding flowchart which can be downloaded as a PDF that you may find useful here. If you follow the instructions there, you should be fine. |
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qspadone
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Posted - Dec 18 2024 : 10:50:29 AM
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To be honest, I simply cannot stop meditating. Stopping entirely seems to bring about more troubles than when I keep at it, even though I'm still constantly changing my interpretations of the instructions.
Here's a breakdown of the various ways I am currently experimenting with my DM practice. Maybe this'll help me figure out which method is the right one.
1. Actively saying the mantra within, really focusing on each sound and syllable as I say it. Usually, I end up getting stuck on the "M" at the end of "AYAM", and just go on saying the "M" internally. It seems faint and fuzzy, which is why I'm thinking this could be it. I'm often wondering if I'm intentionally keeping it stuck on the "M" sound. What makes me think this could be the right way is that afterwards during activity I tend to be way more aware of my breath (alghough rapid and shallow a lot of the time). That being said, I've had some real panick moments in activity following these types of meditation.
2. Sort of similar to the first one, except a bit more passive. I aim to break down and "listen" to each sound the mantra is made of. This one is by far the one I'm the most skeptic about. I don't think this makes much sense.
3. Starting the mantra within, letting it go how it will. The mantra does not necessarily become less distinct, although it does a little. With this, the mantra sort of "cycles" and "loops", and it feels as if it penetrates my body, and I can feel vibrations in some places (usually the lower legs or hands). It sometimes syncs with my heartbeat, sometimes with my breath. When this happens, I just favour the mantra (which is basically running on a "loop"). I favour it gently. I sometimes loss consciousness completely. When I realize I have, I go back to it. And so on. These meditations usually lead to what I believe could be ecstatic conductivity in daily activity: in the arms, legs, chest, ... but not necessarily. I've actually experienced real moments of bliss after these meditations.
4. Same as above, except I kind of favor it slightly more forcefully, as soon as I realize I have lost it. I did this for a number of weeks (with the third mantra enhancement) and although I have good results in the beginning, the experiences I was having during deep meditation were just too much (breath retentions through the whole session, automatic yoga positions, ...), and it led to a number of issues related to emotional outbursts during activity.
I believe 3 is the right way to do it.
Cheers |
Edited by - qspadone on Dec 18 2024 1:31:05 PM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Dec 18 2024 : 1:34:26 PM
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Hi qspadone,
Yes, number three is correct. If you ever find yourself analysing your meditation procedure during meditation, then easily favour the mantra again over any analysis that is happening.
Also, be careful not to judge the effectiveness of the meditation by experiences that arise due to the meditation. These can be anything, depending on the inner obstructions that are being cleared, and so are not a measure of the effectiveness of the meditation practice. |
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qspadone
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Posted - Dec 22 2024 : 01:31:29 AM
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Hi Christi,
You wrote this a while ago:
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The mantra may refine to become more fuzzy and less clearly pronounced, and may even refine to become a continuous sound, or simply a felt vibration.
And yes, as the mantra refines and the inner senses begin to open we can begin to both hear and feel the mantra. And it can be similar to other pranic sensations felt in the body. When we begin to feel it there is no mistaking it.
What is meant by vibration, exactly?
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Edited by - qspadone on Dec 22 2024 02:37:58 AM |
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th1996
Germany
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Posted - Dec 22 2024 : 08:57:20 AM
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oh, I feel this so much...the ability to cannot stop the meditation even it would be wise.
I was in this place...but somehow since a view weeks I am stable. I think, you will find this place tooo. |
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