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joy
joi/
noun
noun: joy

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a feeling of great pleasure and happiness

Happiness
Happiness is a mental or emotional state of well-being characterized by positive or pleasant emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy.

Bliss
1. Extreme happiness; ecstasy.

Studies have shown that meditation actually reduces the size of the amygdala gland which is associated with stress. I believe meditation, the rise of inner silence in and out of practice allows us to begin to realize our natural state. Bliss, joy, happiness whatever you wish to name it.

Whenever anyone asks me about meditation my first comment is always "it will make you happy." I read stories all the time about how AYP has helped change peoples lives in real ways. Isn't part of it because it makes people feel happy?

One of the reasons I am writing this is for people who have never meditated. Before I started I read and studied hours every day for two months. It took me that long to realize that I kept finding answers here. Since I kept finding answers to my questions here I might as well try the lessons. Like I said earlier after two weeks bam, over, sold, it was amazing. That was bliss.

The last thing I want to do is mislead people. If this is something that is unique to me, to experience this so early in my practice please let me know. I have no doubt that kami or shanti or whipporwill or christi or the many of the other long time practitioners lives are good and filled with a natural state of joy. (I sure hope so )

So has AYP helped to fill your day with happiness? If not, what way did it effect you when you first started? What was your bhakti to continue if you were new to meditation?

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Originally posted by Roberto

So could someone explain what their Bliss state is Like ??

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The divine rapture state is not a "mental" state at all, at least in this experience..

The neurobiolgical changes are profound, Amrita flow, cessation of mind activity, etc (So No Possible way to be experiencing happy vs sad emotions, gimme a break ...)

The Difference between mentally perceived "bliss" and the neurobiological result of entering into pure bliss consciousness, is IMHO as huge as the difference between non-relational and relational self inquiry.. Which means that an Experential Base, as opposed to a Theoretical Understanding, is necessary here... and characterized by some common , recognizable, neurobiological responses...

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Originally posted by Roberto

So could someone explain what their Bliss state is Like ??

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From my experiences, I would wholly agree, that while bliss causes the indwelling self to explode in a sheer, unequivocal joy which practically defies description... it is neither positive nor negative, happy nor sad.

Ananda is that heightened state, in whihc the fulcrum of myself is dissolved within the frequency of a far greater consciousness, The Godhead. There are definitive physiological signs of this activity, as well as energy surges felt. Like a wave of conscious-awareness, lifting the I-thought beyond it's routine paradigmatic parameters and human associations. This is totally a non-dual level of being, so while it feels ecstatic to Mego... the price for admission is self-annihilation, as the very self whihc quantifies the experience, is sacrificed in the process of transduction and transformation.

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The divine rapture state is not a "mental" state at all, at least in this experience..

The neurobiolgical changes are profound, Amrita flow, cessation of mind activity, etc (So No Possible way to be experiencing happy vs sad emotions, gimme a break ...)

The Difference between mentally perceived "bliss" and the neurobiological result of entering into pure bliss consciousness, is IMHO as huge as the difference between non-relational and relational self inquiry.. Which means that an Experential Base, as opposed to a Theoretical Understanding, is necessary here... and characterized by some common , recognizable, neurobiological responses...

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Exactly! It's so obvious why Yogins and ascetics world-over, spend so much time in solitary confinement. Be it within a cave in the Himalayas or within a small room in a monastery, inside of a floatation tank or even quietly on the cough in ones living room... the shift must be accompanied by the tell-tale signs of trance-states and direct transfixation/transfiguration.

In my own small experiences of Bliss-consciousness, there appear tears flowing at the very corners of the material eyes. Tears spill gently and continuously down the sides of the face my soul seats itself behead and within. the Ajna is fully activated and when entered and passed through, the limitless expanse of the blooming Sahasrara is known as the only reality (and all else a dream sequence).

An explosive vision of unbound effulgence is highly palpable. so much so,that one is lost in the blinding intensity and goes into whiteout mode. And simultaneously, the sound current is unleaded in all of its immensity. This vibration rattles the ego-self into so many pieces of cosmic confetti. The rise of kundalini shoots, geyser-like, up the spine and out the top of the crown, where is settles in the weightless vortex of energy, directly above the human head (about 8-12 inches).

There breath appears to cease... or at lest take such a deep pause it seems to have stopped it's mechanism. Ultimately, a deep quietude replaced the intensity of the AUM vibration and the deep silnce absorbs the inner witness and removes any degree of self ot observe the process. I call theis "the Eclipsing"... once I have returned ot "ordinary" consciousness.

And I can only say that this makes me so damn happy, I ma in a state of euphoria. The joy of being but an infinitesimal speck in the Infinite Godhead... brings an almost immeasurable peace and clarity of vision. Hence the tears? and on rare occasions, there is a flood of sweet nectar.. Amrita floods down from above and in so doing, quenches the mortal Atman, seamlessly joining the higher and lower spheres as a singular whole. Not at all a mental thingy. It is an energy/experiential thingy.

All I know is part of the mego show, so what I type now is also part of the pendulum of dichotomous existentialism. But by golly, the memory lingers just long enough to saturate the soul inerrant within this human vessel. I feel that this is the sheer Ananda of the mystical experience, no doubt about it. I am most grateful for the shift in attention; the powerful degree in which the individual self in devoured by the Divine self... for in reality, there is only the One.

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

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Originally posted by KellyN

Thank you all for sharing your profound experiences. Although I can not say I have had the experience of ecstatic bliss (as described in several of the posts here), i can say that I have changed, grown, evolved significantly in the year + I started the practice of meditation with AYP. I feel strong and centered for the most part. I am open to seeing the beauty in each moment and appreciating the moment for what it is. Pre-meditation, I would never have thought of walking away from my career. Even several of my colleagues questioned my rationale for leaving. They were supportive of my decision to resign to be a stay at home mom, lol...but they sure did not understand it! I left a leadership position in a hospital that had nurtured my career and professional development. I walked away because I asked for light and the light then began to strip away all that did not serve me any longer. Same thing happened with relationships. I walked away from relationships that no longer served my purpose of spiritual evolution, if that is what this is. Truthfully, i am not sure what it is that I am experiencing and yet, it does not matter that I can't categorize it. When in deep meditation, I feel silent. The silence is what I yearn for each day and each night. Funny, It used to irritate me when one of my kids interrupted my sits, but now i just smile. It is what it is. It makes me grateful that sometimes they are engrossed in some activity and I have the opportunity to do a full practice with samyama and cosmic samyama to boot! But that is often not the case and I happily take what I can get . I am happy, fulfilled, joyful, and centered...but in some respects, I think I always have been and just didn't notice. I have almost always taken the high road and found the silver lining in most situations. I don't get annoyed or irritated by everyday events as I did before, that is noticeable difference. Also, I feel more compassion for others, even when their behavior is less than admirable. I hope I haven't strayed off topic, I sometimes do that .
Much love to you all,
K

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Originally posted by BillinL.A.

Posts like yours KellyN keep me coming back to this forum...very inspirational to where I'm at.

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Originally posted by KellyN

Thank you all for sharing your profound experiences. Although I can not say I have had the experience of ecstatic bliss (as described in several of the posts here), i can say that I have changed, grown, evolved significantly in the year + I started the practice of meditation with AYP. I feel strong and centered for the most part. I am open to seeing the beauty in each moment and appreciating the moment for what it is. Pre-meditation, I would never have thought of walking away from my career. Even several of my colleagues questioned my rationale for leaving. They were supportive of my decision to resign to be a stay at home mom, lol...but they sure did not understand it! I left a leadership position in a hospital that had nurtured my career and professional development. I walked away because I asked for light and the light then began to strip away all that did not serve me any longer. Same thing happened with relationships. I walked away from relationships that no longer served my purpose of spiritual evolution, if that is what this is. Truthfully, i am not sure what it is that I am experiencing and yet, it does not matter that I can't categorize it. When in deep meditation, I feel silent. The silence is what I yearn for each day and each night. Funny, It used to irritate me when one of my kids interrupted my sits, but now i just smile. It is what it is. It makes me grateful that sometimes they are engrossed in some activity and I have the opportunity to do a full practice with samyama and cosmic samyama to boot! But that is often not the case and I happily take what I can get . I am happy, fulfilled, joyful, and centered...but in some respects, I think I always have been and just didn't notice. I have almost always taken the high road and found the silver lining in most situations. I don't get annoyed or irritated by everyday events as I did before, that is noticeable difference. Also, I feel more compassion for others, even when their behavior is less than admirable. I hope I haven't strayed off topic, I sometimes do that .
Much love to you all,
K

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