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Parallax
USA
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 Posted - Jul 20 2009 : 5:10:46 PM
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Originally posted by yogani
If someone gives us a bicycle, we can either take it apart or ride it. Can't do both at the same time. Riding is preferred, since this is what the bicycle has been designed for.
Relax and enjoy the ride!
Great analogy Yogani, and thanks for indulging us in all of the personal questions...there is a natural curiosity to know a little bit more about the "man behind the curtain"...and I can also appreciate all of the reasons for staying behind the curtain  |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 20 2009 : 9:35:03 PM
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Only with bikes, you can kinda understand how they work!
With humans we're like- poke this and "Ooh, look that other thingy moved! Write it down.", and with cave man drool and chimpanzee joy we clumsily circle around, and adventurously poke some other chakra.
Like the pharmaceutical companies we think we know what we're doing.
There may be side effects. . . |
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mimirom
Czech Republic
368 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 05:52:09 AM
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Yogani:
The real story is about what all of you are doing -- the fantastic global opening that is occurring. All I can say to that is, Wow!
Dear Yogani,
I also can see that huge global wave, and I am thrilled by it's power. I'm talking with others, who can see it too. We are incredibly lucky to live in this age, being able to witness this extraordinary event. I think what we are experiencing is at least as big as the Copernican revolution in the 16th century, where the Earth was suddenly displaced from the center of the Universe, and the astronomical universe itself revealed it's true vastness to human comprehension. It was an unimaginable expansion of the human scope of understanding, at least unimaginable for those who didn't live back then, or do not live right now! We've won the jackpot, I guess... Let's enjoy and celebrate!
Thank you Yogani for your profound gifts. Thank you everyone here, for accepting me with love as I am, for accepting everyone else with love as they are, for this is a great teaching in it self. You all are precious beautiful souls.
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 09:02:32 AM
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yes it is wonderful to see this.
Most people are concentrating on how screwed up the rest of the world is.
But I LOVE that because that means it is falling apart. |
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yogani
USA
5241 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 11:57:16 AM
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Originally posted by mimirom
I think what we are experiencing is at least as big as the Copernican revolution in the 16th century, where the Earth was suddenly displaced from the center of the Universe, and the astronomical universe itself revealed it's true vastness to human comprehension.
Hi Roman:
I agree. A huge pardigm shift is occurring. We are witnessing the end of body/mind self-identified awareness and the birth of spiritual Self-awareness. The truth is setting us free.
Let's get on with it! 
The guru is in you.
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gumpi
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 12:12:18 PM
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Yogani,
I understand that analysis is sometimes overdone and practice is perhaps neglected. However, i would really just like to know where you got spinal breathing from.
Also, what are your thoughts on the amount of time spent in meditation - that is, are longer times unhealthy? |
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yogani
USA
5241 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 1:18:23 PM
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Originally posted by gumpi
Yogani,
I understand that analysis is sometimes overdone and practice is perhaps neglected. However, i would really just like to know where you got spinal breathing from.
Also, what are your thoughts on the amount of time spent in meditation - that is, are longer times unhealthy?
Hi Gumpi:
We are not going to further dissect my background. There are good reasons why AYP is presented the way it is. It will be much better to practice and go out and live a full life.
If you are really interested in the effects of longer deep meditation sessions, try it and see what happens. It is suggested to read the AYP Deep Meditation book first.
The guru is in you.
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gumpi
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 1:37:47 PM
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Hi Yogani,
I have read your deep meditation book. I don't recall anywhere where you say that long meditations can be bad for health. I have done long meditations in the past but not regularly. So i don't know the potential bad effects. Do you have experience of long meditations being bad? I ask because people do seem to have adverse effects from long sessions but this could be an individual thing. I think we need to have more input on this to help future meditators.
Your privacy is duly noted. This is good. I wasn't really asking you to provide personal info though. I just wanted to know where you learnt spinal breathing from. Was it from your own experience or did you take the technique from somewhere? This might sound somewhat interrogative and i apologise for that but i am just genuinely interested. |
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yogani
USA
5241 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 2:07:42 PM
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Originally posted by gumpi
I have read your deep meditation book. I don't recall anywhere where you say that long meditations can be bad for health. I have done long meditations in the past but not regularly. So i don't know the potential bad effects.
Hi Gumpi:
See page 50 in the Deep Meditaton book on "Fine-Tuning Our Meditaton Time." Also see the numerous discussions on overdoing and self-pacing in the lessons and forums.
While uncomfortable, short term overdoing in deep meditation will not be unhealthy for most. Self-pacing and grounding will resolve short term imbalances. As with anything, deliberate long term overdoing can be be unhealthy, and the road to recovery will be longer. In this case the problem is not with the practice, but with the obsessive or misguided overdoing. Less will very often be more, and that is an important lesson for many of us to learn. A moderate routine practiced twice-daily and balanced with normal activity in the world over the long term has been found to produce good results, i.e., steadily rising enlightenment.
The guru is in you.
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gumpi
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 4:10:51 PM
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| Thanks Yogani. |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 21 2009 : 6:44:42 PM
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Originally posted by gumpi
Yogani,
I was interested in where you yourself first found the spinal breathing technique. . . . .
I wonder why spinal breathing takes the route it does.
Yogani already answered this on the last page here:
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....D=5959#53714
To paraphrase, spinal breathing was found in a number of places. It was chosen for AYP because of its effectiveness, discovered by consistent practicing.
Spinal breathing takes the route of the spine because there are channels where the life force energy flows in that area. The energy flow has been scattered and diverted by karma, emotional problems, and habitual thought patterns. Once the energy is coaxed into flowing in that center channel again, it returns us to our natural state, and we realize who we are. That changes the whole world because our perception changes. |
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mimirom
Czech Republic
368 Posts |
Posted - Jul 23 2009 : 07:34:43 AM
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Originally posted by yogani
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Originally posted by mimirom
I think what we are experiencing is at least as big as the Copernican revolution in the 16th century, where the Earth was suddenly displaced from the center of the Universe, and the astronomical universe itself revealed it's true vastness to human comprehension.
Hi Roman:
I agree. A huge pardigm shift is occurring. We are witnessing the end of body/mind self-identified awareness and the birth of spiritual Self-awareness. The truth is setting us free.
Let's get on with it!
The guru is in you.
Hi fellow yogis & yoginis,
as many of you may know, also STING is one of us yogis...
"Love Is The Seventh Wave"
STING
In the empire of the senses
You're the queen of all you survey
All the cities all the nations
Everything that falls your way
There is a deeper wave than this
That you don't understand
There is a deeper wave than this
Tugging at your hand
Every ripple on the ocean
Every leaf on every tree
Every sand dune in the desert
Every power we never see
There is a deeper wave than this
Swelling in the world
There is a deeper wave than this
Listen to me girl
Feel it rising in the cities
Feel it sweeping over land
Over borders, over frontiers
Nothing will its power withstand
There is no deeper wave than this
Rising in the world
There is no deeper wave than this
Listen to me girl
All the bloodshed, all the anger
All the weapons, all the greed
All the armies, all the missiles
All the symbols of our fear
There is a deeper wave than this
Rising in the world
There is a deeper wave than this
Listen to me girl
At the still point of destruction
At the centre of the fury
All the angels, all the devils
All around us can't you see
There is a deeper wave than this
Rising in the land
There is a deeper wave than this
Nothing will withstand
I say love is the seventh wave
_/\_
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