en-us Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:42:03 +0200 aypforum99@aypsite.org 60 AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ http://www.aypsite.org/images/aum3.jpg AYP Support Forums RSS Feed 144 47 kechari......extends life? alwayson@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4103&REPLY_ID=35194 Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:22:50 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4103 Quote:
I know Kechari extends life by intercepting the amitra on its way down.

But I never understood this.....wouldn't you WANT that amitra to drop???]]> Shamanic Yoga CarsonZi@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=2972&REPLY_ID=35192 Other Systems of Spiritual Practice Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:22:02 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2972 Quote:
THANK YOU for your beautiful post David... It is always fulfilling to read confirmation of what one believes in someone else's experiences. Although I can almost guarantee you that you can easily obtain the precursors for ayahausca in any country, I don't recommend using it without an already well experienced guide or EXTENSIVE spiritual and psychedelic experience in similar areas. And FYI there are and always have been plants capable of producing the ayahausca experience in India through Syrian Rue and Phalaris grasses (and a few other natural DMT sources) but I have never heard of any historical use of these plants for these reasons. Although Syrian Rue has been a widely respected plant with 'supernatural' inducing capabilities in India. But I believe there is a reason that these plants never ended up being used in the history of yoga....they weren't needed. But in other cultures such spiritual "stimulants" have been necessary of inducing the drive towards "moksha' whatever you want to call it in your native tongue or belief system. And I believe they still can play a synchronistic part in the drama of human spiritual evolution. Thank you for your post David. As my wife can attest to, it gave me great joy to read it aloud.
Peace and love,
CarsonZi]]> Do Angels have sex? Ananda@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4089&REPLY_ID=35193 Satsang Cafe Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:20:00 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4089 Quote:
There are no english links, it's in and we might have a lot of problems concerning the translations plus i'm not pro this stuff and don't courage people to take part in such activities.

but still i'm going to post the link here anyway in case anyone that reads arabic stumbles arround this post.

http://www.adrees.net/vb/

kind regards,

Tony]]> Law Enforcement david_obsidian@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=1056&REPLY_ID=35189 Yoga, Career and Money Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:48:13 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1056 Quote:
Hunter, just glad that you're going to follow what you think is best for you. If that's in sustainable farming, great. If it had been in law enforcement, that would have been fine too.
]]> Where am I at now? kadak@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=3691&REPLY_ID=35180 Kundalini - Inner Energy Ecstasy Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:42:44 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3691 Quote:
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Perhaps his heart chakra did not open completely? Perhaps his kundalini never rose to the higher chakras? Perhaps, as he says, we cannot understand his experience?

Sure, but anyway, I don't think he reached meaning CL, because I never saw any sign of it in his speeches.

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Once a holy man came to see me. He was claiming that denial of sex is so essential for the spiritual future of man. I said, “ It's a crime against nature. Nature has not intended you to deny sex. ” Then he got up and left. How can that abnormal situation be made a model for all spiritual aspirants and why torture them? Why has denial of sex been made the foundation of spiritual enlightenment? As a reaction or a revolt against that, what you call the tantric system appeared in this country.


I think this is a wrong interpretation. I don't think tantric system is a revolt but a necessity. Tantras are not only about sex, sex is only the final part of it. But, as some people need to keep quiet to develop themselves, other ones notice that with different stimulations, the winds are easier to purify.

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I don't know. He does seem to have experienced bliss and ecstasy


Of course. He had a rather deep example CL, but he didn't really want it. So it was painful.


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He also says that the human body cannot tolerate continued stimulation (such as bliss and meditation) for long periods of time.


That's true for winds/drops blisses. But wrong for the highest kind of bliss, wich is totally outside of the channels. Tibetans speak of a state where bliss is permanent.

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When you succeed in your imagination that you have controlled your thoughts and experienced some space between those thoughts, or some state of thoughtlessness, you feel that you are getting somewhere. That is a thought-induced state of thoughtlessness. The fact that you experience the space between two thoughts, the thoughtless state, means that the thought was very much there.


"the space between two thoughts" is just an example for beginners, to help them to identify natural state.

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Do you happen to know what penetrating the other four doors do? Especially the Ajna or brow area?



No, I don't know.

regards]]> Can't stop focussing on breath tadeas@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4110&REPLY_ID=35173 Deep Meditation and Samyama Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:11:25 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4110 Quote:
Relax! :)

If the mantra is syncing with the breath, it's ok. Just let it be. Don't force it either way. Who cares?

If you stop breathing, it's ok - when the car stops, it needs no gas :))
As soon as you notice you've stopped breathing - back to mantra :)

If you absolutely cannot go back to mantra when you have the feeling that the breath is so loud, then stay with your breath for a while. Relax. After that, when the feeling subsides and you're able to go back to the mantra, go back to it. It's very simple and there's not much more that you can do about it. We direct our attention just by willing. Try it again and again and it will come :)]]> spinal breathing avatar186@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=3962&REPLY_ID=35172 Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:58:11 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3962 Quote:
the microcosmic orbit, goes down to the genital, and wraps around them. at least the main flow, when the flow is going out the body, it makes the motion of a tire running backwards, and in and up is a foward motion.

mwahaha]]> Permaculture YogaIsLife@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=3410&REPLY_ID=35171 Yoga, Science and Philosophy Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:38:05 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3410 Quote:
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Hunter: I have just reached the point where I am able to learn; I have no answers here.


Wise answer though I think [;)]

It is great to know Fukuoka methods are working with you? What are you doing, the clay seed balls? Actually, if you want to continue the dialog we can continue via email (go to my profile page) as it gets a bit out of context here...[8D]

Unfortunetely I do very limiting gardening as the conditions do not permit for more. Still, at the moment, I have access to a piece of land where I have beans, peas, broad beans, cabbage, lettuce, beets, courgettes and some others but I used the local traditional methods for that (no mulching even). I am trying to make some compost as well but need to work a bit better at that as well. Still I am planning on doing a permacultural review of the place I am living now for some ideas on energy, water management, etc. Just brainstorming at the moment.

My ecology work is very specific. Currently I am working towards a phd in the ecology of lakes, studying the algae living in them and the nutrient content and where it comes from (agricultural land run-off etc.). But I am very interested in any topic related to true sustainable development. So, happy to see some enthusiasts of course!]]> kumbhaka in spinal breathing tadeas@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=3729&REPLY_ID=35170 Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:35:54 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3729 Quote:
An update on a further modification of spinal breathing with kumbhakas on inhale.

I've integrated yoni mudra into spinal breathing as described here: http://www.aypsite.org/288.html - which in my case also means that I do a short (5-10sec) yoni mudra kumbhaka after every inhale.

I've been doing this modified version for the past 2-3 months (including retreat setting) and it's been stable so far. It is a pretty powerful combination, so appropriate capacity is required :))

This is just a record for those who would like to explore this.]]> Ayahuasca tadeas@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4097&REPLY_ID=35168 Other Systems of Spiritual Practice Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:14:24 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4097 Quote:
BTW have you checked out http://www.erowid.org/ - the ultimate resource for substance users, abusers and psychonauts? :)
Probably not many yoga practitioners over there, but it's a good start.
Unless you're pretty far down the (Union:) road - which is to say there is very little self-identification going on at any moment - your experience will likely be simmilar to those not practicing.
]]> Question On Self-Pacing Hunter@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=1449&REPLY_ID=35164 Building a Daily Practice with Self-Pacing Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:31:25 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1449 Quote:
Self-pacing update: Doing well here.

I have been practicing 5 minutes of pranayama and 10 minutes of deep meditation twice-daily since about December of 2006. I have not been able to do more than this.

Everything has settled down and is quite smooth. 5 days ago I increased my deep meditation to 15 minutes and kept my pranayama at 5 minutes. I have resumed kechari as well.]]> hello everybody Hunter@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4105&REPLY_ID=35163 Satsang Cafe Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:20:34 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4105 Quote:
Hi Simon,
It was great to read your introduction. We are the young bucks around here. [8D] [:o)]

I am glad to know that your interest in kriya brought you to AYP. That is how I found this place as well.

Hunter
]]> Drugs for expanding consciousness and reaching god CarsonZi@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=1965&REPLY_ID=35157 Yoga, Science and Philosophy Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:53:27 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1965 Quote:
Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum and this is my first post...I hope you do not take offence to me just "jumping" right in on your conversation without you all getting to know me at all.
I am a new student of Kriya Yoga through the S.R.F. and the reason I wanted to comment on this thread is because of my long and extensive peroid of use of entheogenic substances and other substances as well I guess. I should explain I guess that I am currently on a Methadone maintenence therapy program and dose daily with Methadone (90mg daily) to stay out of opiate withdrawls due to my past addiction to heroin and the likes...I know opiates are not the topic here, and that is not my point, you just should know this I guess, but I have used on many occasions all of these substances: LSD, LSA, MDMA, MDA, MDE, Mushrooms (many varietys including amanita muscaria), Mescaline, Salvia, Ketamine (including a year period of daily 250mg dosing at bed time), 2c-b, 2c-e, 2c-t2, 2c-c, 2c-d, 4-ho-dipt- 4-oh-mipt, dmt(very regular usage), dpt, I really honestly could go on and on but due to all the complaining over long posts I will stop there.(and by the way I read every word of that "long" post and even read all of the links as well. I should also add that I am saving and hoping to rid myself of my methadone addiction next summer using Ibogaine Therapy but that is another story. My real reason for joining this forum and posting today, is to state my opinion on this subject because this is the subject most close to my heart. I am a true believer that there is a positive balance that can be achieved between the use of entheogens and the practice of any meditative yogic practice or as I believe the "Doc" stated any "Sadhana". Entheogenic use for the purposes of "God-Realization" (which is what we are ALL trying to acheive here) has been around, and I may cause a stir saying this, but since the dawn of human spirituality and may have even triggered it. (Try reading Terence McKenna's "Food of the Gods" or Graham Hancocks "SuperNatural") What do you all think "Soma" is/was in the Rig Veda? I think that modern humanity places far too much emphasis on demonizing and regulating hallucinogens when we really should be using them, at least in conjuction with yoga, to help us explore the God within. Far too much fear and dis and mis-information exists over the use of entheogens and I think a lot of you might do well to compare the DMT state to Samadhi, and realize that they are one and the same. I do not recommend entheogenic use to those who are not mentally stable, but everyone on this forum most likely is, so I hesitantly almost DO recommend you all try ayahausca once in the right setting, and see what it is like. I think you would all be very surprised to see the leaps and bounds you may make after in your own Sadhana.
Peace and love and no offense meant,

Nice to meet you all

Carson Zi]]> Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka Ananda@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4093&REPLY_ID=35146 Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:48:19 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4093 Quote:
hi joe,

i've never experienced the vision of the star though it would be nice if i did but i always get the vision of a yellow orange ring with a christal like void in it's middle.

kind regards,

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