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HELP! I've fallen in love and I can't get up.

Delara@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 10:19:26 +0200

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Originally posted by Chaz

BTW, I remember reading a thread on the tantra forum and it was mentioned by one of the topic posters that love and affection can actually repulse the one you are giving it to. Has anyone found this to be true? What is your experience?

No!not true

I Desire Death

Delara@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 10:15:08 +0200

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Originally posted by swaha

:)

i had a taste of beyond bodymind in Yassin's presence
a huge infinite universe was opening.. infinite vortex..
i found myself ascending, formless, sucked by this infinity
it felt cold, a cold light..crystal like..
i just wanted to leave.. such peace, lightness, fluidity, liberation..
there was not a single drop of fear.. there was nothing actually..
just bliss..nothing else..
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i realized that unless i give it ALL to Him, i will remain in the vicious circle .. and personally, i am bored with it all..
no more WHYs, HOWs, IFs, WHOs.
time to JUMP IN with both feet and NO MIND.

Dear sister Swaha;

thank you for sharing,this is beautiful & relieving. I haven't met Yassin personally as you know.But so far whenever I feel his energy,it's related to horror...I know it's an ego thing from my sideHe's a holy man & I still love him so.

Yesterday night I felt I need to skip my practices,when I closed my eyes to sleep...there was this sun disc & there was no I & there was happiness...then I asked where am I?and I figured out there's no one...only this warm light.this is when I got alerted...I might be dying.

Looking back at it today,why the fear!It's this ego that's spoiling...everything is so perfect.

:)

breaking through

lmaher22@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 09:04:41 +0200

Would anyone like to take a shot at how many hours it takes to 'crack-through' whatever IT is in meditation we need to bust through? Rough guess would be nice. Auto of a Yogi said 3hr's a day but he never said for how long!
Thanks... And once again guess's welcome.
Bless all
L

New Mark Whitwell/ Heart of Yoga book

Will Power@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:35 +0200

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You are welcome , and it works perfectly now

jal neti and allergies

Will Power@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 07:23:45 +0200

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Besides Jala neti, they say amaroli is very good for allergies.

Kundalini and chakras? Strange contradiction

Sanjeev@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 05:53:08 +0200

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Hi Maz :)

I had a rather "fast" rising last year and it led to a number of weird and painful symptoms immediately. If you are curious about the time it takes to get back to normal, it took 2 months for them to become less painful, another 4-5 months to decrease to 1% of the original intensity. You may recover faster, or slower, but surely it will become less painful. (Unless you manage to do something completely stupid, like trying a powerful kriya etc).

The trick that worked for me was to completely stop all practices, including reading and thinking about the spiritual stuff. Keeping myself busy 16 hours a day in worldly matters. Just become a "normal" materialistic person again. Kundalini will still be active, she will work in background. It will never go away, and why would you wish it to go away anyway, you have worked hard for many lifetimes to reach here. Just slow down a bit and wait for the right time. A competent Guru may help, but never trust anyone blindly.

5 Tibetans before or after DM

kaserdar@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 05:51:08 +0200

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Yes after DM makes more sense to me now. Thank you both.

new book by Mark Whitwell

Radharani@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 05:22:40 +0200

Not sure if this should be posted under "Other Systems" - please advise if so. But, I thought it was pertinent to our Tantra forum. It is about how asana and pranayama help integrate sexuality in our spiritual life. It's not an AYP practice per se (there are minor differences), but is harmonious with AYP, especially in so far as HOY and AYP are two of the only systems I am aware of, which advocate a very healthy approach to sex and relationships in their proper spiritual context. The book may be a little introductory for advanced yogis, as Mark has tried to make it accessible to non-yogis as well, but I think you will find it enjoyable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/14...E6R6JKN262ZG

Anyone found these useful?

willie@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 04:55:57 +0200

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Thanks folks, and thanks mod for moving this to a more appropriate area.

I'm not sure what to make of these. I might dip my toe in by buying one of the CDs you mentione stevenbhow as they are pretty cheap compared to some of the others OTOH I might just stay with meditation.

I recently tried breath meditation and I found this a lot easier to concentrate on than the mantra. I will persevere with it for a while before chopping and changing again.

Thanks to everyone for your help :)

Willie

Where to start?

Medea@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 04:21:49 +0200

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Hi Dreadlocks and welcome to the forums!

Start reading here. The first practice that will be introduced is deep mediation. That is where you start. When this practice has become stable over a number of weeks or months, the next practice that can be added is spinal breathing pranayama. Good luck and enjoy!

HORRIBLE ELECTROMAGNETIC HEAD PRESSURE,I NEED HELP

maheswari@aypsite.org — Thu, 17 May 2012 01:53:29 +0200

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I did meditation like 10 times

dear omerta
what kind of meditation you did?

Help With Self-pacing & Buildup of practice

Chaz@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 23:12:45 +0200

There are 6 replies, with the last one on May 16 2012 at 11:12:45 PM by Chaz
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I appreciate the helpful info Carson, and thanks for the input Shanti and Woosa. It does make sense that timing when to add on practices would not really work.

Thinking about my history with ayp I think I took it all on rather too quickly. In fact I may have been overloading before I even started AYP since last summer with doing the sat naam kriya and sodarshan chakra kriya, having little knowledge of how powerful these practices actually were. Once I got into AYP not very long after I just kept adding everything together. My symptoms of overload showed up during the end of 2011, but I was still attached to practices and kept doing them. When I finally cut back, I went a week with just 10 minutes and built up rather quickly again from that point.

To think how much smoother this whole year would have been if I had not be overloading this whole time.

For now, a cold shower every morning and ten minutes twice daily are all the practices I need. Meditation on the mantra for ten minutes is very easy and comfortable for me, so I will continue like this till overload symptoms have completely disappeared and adding more time seems right.

Thanks for all the advice,
Much love!

Kundalini Sydrome

maz19@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 21:39:59 +0200

There are 9 replies, with the last one on May 16 2012 at 9:39:59 PM by maz19
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Yeah, I heard he had symptoms for like 12 years or something. But hey he lived to his 80s so something went right. Wasnt he meditating for hours a day ? Yet we got it spontaneously.

I know all about the tearing up..... But I'll spare you my sob story. Anyway, for me it took about 2 months or so for a state of enlightenment to occur, although I had a strange "partial" experience a couple of weeks before symptoms. It happened totally randomly. I thought I would be cured after that experience, but nope, not at all !

AYP Deep Meditation group in Calgary

CarsonZi@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 19:24:28 +0200

Hi Friends,

I've just finalized the details for the new AYP Deep Meditation group in Calgary, Alberta Canada.

We'll be meeting every second Sunday, from 7-8:30pm, starting June 24th, 2012. We'll be meeting at the Tao of Peace in Bowness; http://taoofpeace.com/#!/home

The group is by donation and all money collected goes to pay the rental fee each week.

The schedule will be as follows;

Arrive: 7-7:15pm (doors will be locked at 7:15)
Instructions for practice: 7:15-7:30
Breathing: 7:30-7:40
Deep Meditation 7:40-8
Rest: 8-8:10
Questions/Sharing: 8:10-8:30

The Tao of Peace is a really beautiful place, the energy is very smooth and the staff are genuine and welcoming. They even plan to join us in meditation when they can. I hope to see some of you who are in the area there someday soon.

Love!
Carson

The Known, Knower and Knowing: Rupert Spira

AumNaturel@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 18:33:48 +0200

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A good reading, thank you for sharing.

Reality Check

Delara@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 15:31:15 +0200

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Originally posted by Ananda

Finally I'd like to share this beautiful song which Chas shared with me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwI9...gdata_player
In God's hands

Love to All <3

Very nice.thank you Chas,thank you Ananda.
sounds of windows error-messages cracks me up at the end

All Love

I need help (spontaneous kundalini awakening)

Christi@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 14:35:02 +0200

There are 66 replies, with the last one on May 16 2012 at 2:35:02 PM by Christi
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Hi Lomaximo,

Every experience of kundalini awakening is different. Once the initial symptoms of the awakening calm down, and you feel ready you can begin spiritual practices. But, as I said in my last post, start light and monitor the situation closely. If symptoms start to return, then stop and wait for things to calm down again.

So you are on the right track. You have discovered that you are overly sensitive to spinal breathing. At this point I would take a break from spiritual practices again for a week or two, and concentrate on the grounding practices. Then, when things are stable again, go back to meditation on it's own for a while without the spinal breathing.

Many people who experience what you have been through suffer for a long time, not knowing what to do. With the guidance of people in this forum you have managed to get things to a controllable level in a very short space of time.

All the best

Christi

HORRIBLE spontaneous kundalini awakening

maz19@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 13:42:25 +0200

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gg: yeah, I guess you're right. Heck I'd be overjoyed if I can just go back to where I was before all this started. Never mind that paranormal BS, sorry I even brought it up.

Scary meditation experience

Autumn@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 13:10:47 +0200

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Oh thanks a million AumNatural. This helps a great deal. Also it will help me remember there is nothing to fear while having another such trance. Thank you.

No children problem

maheswari@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 12:55:58 +0200

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Get married - and you'll regret it. Don't get married - and you'll regret it."

High highs and low lows

Shanti@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 12:26:11 +0200

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Couple of questions...
1) How much are you resting after your practice session?

"irritable and sluggish" can happen if you dont rest enough after your practice sessions... Don't forget to rest 10 min or more after each session.

2) How close to bed time is your second session?

the Earth realm is Insanity! & yet continues..

Will Power@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 11:27:15 +0200

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Originally posted by karl

Adam only had what appeared to free will because God had created those particular circumstances. Adam can no more tell you why he took the Apple than you can know why you like Coffee. God has no more idea why he created Man than Adam knew why he had taken the Apple.

I understand

Should I see the Doctor??? Or normal Side Effect?

SparklingDiamond@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 10:40:22 +0200

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Thank you amoux and Hi Sey

Thank you also for the advice on breathing Sey

I have done Ashtanga yoga in the past so I can relate to this type of breathing.

I have ceased my meditations since I started this post, but NEED to resume soon, my stress levels are starting to rise.

one other thing i wanted to mention is all symptoms of faintness/dizziness have passed. I did some research and apparently, a low grain/carb diet is very helpful. I have been keeping alow carb diet, and so far sooo good. But still to see the doctor.

Thanks again for your helpful replies both to amoux and you sey.

Blessings,

Maria

money from heaven

Shanti@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 09:11:10 +0200

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Originally posted by Radharani

YES - basically everything started working out great as soon as I totally stopped all attempts at "manifesting" anything and said, "I only want You, do whatever You want." It's so much easier and nicer this way and I can keep my mind filled with "Yeshua, Krishna..." instead of having to think about trying to make sh*t happen.

Samyama... it has never failed... the more we give up the concrete (what we want)... the more life has a chance to manifest what we need.
<3

Shaktipat

nirmal@aypsite.org — Wed, 16 May 2012 09:09:49 +0200

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Hi AumNaturel,

Thanks for suggesting lesson #146. I will read it the first chance I get,
nirmal